• Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    So…talk to me like I’m a MAGA moron with less brain cells than teeth and a family tree that doesn’t always fork in all the right places.

    What’s the problem here? Seriously. Even if Taylor Swift were personally touring the country, knocking on every single door, and telling people to vote for Biden. So? Isn’t that what their staffers should also be doing so they can get re-elected? So what if she stands on the podium if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl and says that everybody in the stadium and watching at home should vote for Biden?

    Like at what point does it cross from the political activism that thousands of people across the country engage in all the time to some kind of “psyop” (side note: This is the stupidest term I have ever heard, by the way), “election interference”, or whatever other term they can come up with to imply what she’s doing is illegal?

    Are they scared that Taylor Swift commands a bigger audience than Trump? Are they worried about millions of Swifties marching in lockstep to the ballot box to vote for Biden? Are they really all that concerned because a celebrity who has so far shown absolutely no desire even dip a toe into that political shitstorm might say something that might cause people to vote for Biden?

    Are these people seriously getting all worked up over a celebrity who has shown no desire to give political commentary at all simply because she might endorse Biden? Or is this another situation where they’re pre-emptively setting Taylor Swift of all people up as the person to blame if Trump loses? Last time he did this, he said that everything is rigged and that’s the only way he could lose. Is the party really setting up for a round 2 where they blame Taylor fucking Swift?

    Because that’s not going to work out for them. Taylor Swift is probably one of the biggest celebrities in the country right now, maybe only rivalled by people like the Rock. And that’s a hell of a maybe. Do they think pissing off a shit-ton of Swifties in red states is going to work? Fucking LOL. Try that and they’ll be lucky if all that happens is a few purple states go blue. Swifties are not going to be abandoning Taylor Swift on the word of Donald fucking Trump.

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    We should consider it a faux pas for a news organization to report on the punditry of other news org that is “two steps below it”.

    If nbcnews wants to cover something “conservatives” are saying, they shouldn’t reach deep. They should consider the twitter account End Wokeness to be so far beneath it that reporting on it directly should feel dirty.

    Now if fox news or even newsmax picks it up, then maybe start attacking this nonsense. Right now it seems to the crazies that we are taking them seriously. Why else would NBC News cover it?

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      It would be like CNN reporting on our Lemmy posts. It doesn’t make sense to treat Twitter as if it’s the news. It’s how Trump had a stranglehold on the news cycle from a White House toilet. The news couldn’t stop reporting on his tweets.

      If I wanted to get my news from Twitter I would go to Twitter. I go to news organizations to hear real news, not stream of consciousness thoughts from public figures. I’m concerned how much actual news we’ve missed because news pundits are too busy checking social media to actually report on the news.

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      i’m seeing this more often recently and i appreciate people who identify it and call it out

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    *Football team that’s been a dominant presence in the league for the last several seasons wins AFC Championship again and will be returning to the Super Bowl*

    Conservatives: TAYLOR SWIFT DID THIS TO GET JOE BIDEN REELECTED!!!1!!

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      Plus Taylor Swift who has been immensely popular for like…What, over a decade now? Only now suddenly wielding her influence to run the government or something? Please, she’s rich, popular, and in business, she basically operates as her own independent nation without needing to run anyone else’s. 😂

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        She turns 35 just before the next president takes office, meaning this is the first election she could legally become president. Coincidence???

        Absolutely a coincidence. This is all a marketing stunt, but the conspiracies have been fun to read.

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          She will be 35 in December and could be elected president in 2024.

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        She’s also been doing get out the vote/voter registration campaigns since at least 2018. She has officially endorsed multiple Democrats in the past, including Biden in the general election in 2020. None of this is new or a secret. Conservatives think they have uncovered some grand plot though. Like Taylor Swift needs the NFL and she wouldn’t have any publicity or influence without it. If anything it’s probably the opposite, with NFL trying to use Taylor Swift to boost their own popularity more.

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          I heard NPR say that she’s brought in roughly $300 million to the NFL because so many more women are now watching

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          Seriously. There is a conspiracy here, and it’s to get the Chief’s to win. /s. Probably. Not really. Yes I’m bitter.

          All joking aside I miss when we could have “low stake” conspiracy theories. Now we have genuine flat earthers and the like, it’s only a matter of time before someone weaponizes the “birds aren’t real” meme. I swear god people will look back at pizzagate as the definitive marker where the world forgot 4chan was primarily a joke.

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            I’m bitter about the chiefs too. Also I feel like “the fix is in” and “script” jokes about the NFL have been ruined by people actually believing in something like that. If you joke about it now Poe’s law will kick in, people won’t know you’re joking anymore. And the NFL is certainly not helping the optics by getting all buddy buddy with sports gambling.

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              I’m OK with the NFL having its popularity chipped away. It’s a destructive sport that’s held a privileged position in the US for too long.

              It’d be nice if it was for better reasons, though.

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                I’m especially annoyed when these billionaire team owners with highly profitable teams get taxpayers to pay for their stadiums.

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        Well she did dare to encourage her fans to vote! And that’s obviously anti-democratic or something.

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    It bothers me so much to know how stupid I am and also know there are so many people even stupider than me.

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      I didn’t expect the revolution to be led by tween pop fans, but I remember middle school.

      Vicious.

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        If you think her fans are just tweens you are in for a big surprise. She is extremely popular with most age groups. Hell, I don’t even listen to a lot of pop but I find myself singing along to her songs.

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          Yup. I’m a man in my thirties who has never been anything close to a “Swiftie” but when Midnights dominated the charts I decided to give it a listen and a good chunk of it resonated with me. Not the music itself, though it isn’t bad. Kind of generic modern pop. It’s her lyrics that sell it. I felt a bit like that Danny Devito “I get it” gif from the end of IASIP season 13.

          Edit: (That said, I pride myself on being able to find things to appreciate about media I wouldn’t otherwise consume, and so I’m prone to liking things. Your mileage may vary.)

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        Taylor Swift has been putting out hits for 15 years. It’s definitely more than just tweens at this point.

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    Telling people to vote, either in a general sense or for a specific party, is just communication. That’s not a psyop. Simply appearing at football games is also not a psyop.

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    There are many fine establishments that allow you to bet on the outcome of NFL games.

    So all those conservatives are placing bets now, right?

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    I wasn’t aware it worked like that, that because a certain team won, everyone has to do what Swift wnats…

    In fact I’m sure it doesn’t…

    I know Conservative arguments don’t often make sense, and by design are meant to be catchy slogans more than accurate precise arguments, but… shit sometimes they make it too obvious.

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    could be part of an orchestrated plot to drum up hype for the Democratic Party.

    What if it was? Then what? Isn’t that just marketing? Commercialization? I mean… what? Why even care?

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    The same dipshits also think Ted (pedophile) Nugent is an American hero.

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    Oh no. Please don’t target Taylor Swift. Oh gosh. Conservatives, this will just ruin everything for all other people. You can’t do this. Her like bazillion fans are definitely too young to vote. Ah. No. Stop.

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    all this bullshit does is make this heavy metal head want to listen to Swift. Good job numbnuts.