It’s not accusations, it’s a statement of a fact. How many smartphones would an average westerner own in their life? How much clothes? All other useless “things” that nobody can live without? When europoors were starving and couldn’t afford living in Europe, they moved and colonised America and Siberia, maybe it’s time to think about moving to Venezuela or something where you’d definitely be able to afford a house and whatnot?
And on a slightly less vitriolic note, why blame corpos for inequality when you yourself vote for the officials who make the corpo dreams come true? I mean they do only what people allow them to do.
Lmao I’m sorry do only “westerners” have phones? Or clothes? Do people outside the west not have trinkets that they don’t really need? Of course they fucking do. Moving to a poorer country only works if you move with significant capital… If you are from America and you have no money, moving to Venezuela just means you still have no money but now you live in Venezuela, not sure how that’s supposed to help.
Not sure what your point is re politicians. They bear culpability alongside the capitalists, yes.
the question is how much. When did you buy your last phone? A year ago? Two? I’m still rocking my nokia dumb phone I got like 15 years ago. Same with everything else. The consumption is orders of magnitude more, literally.
When you or I bought our phones doesn’t matter because even if I bought a top of the line phone once per year that wouldn’t buy me a house. I don’t, fwiw, and I’m privileged enought to be able to afford to buy a house - but I also don’t make the mistake of thinking that being frugal is what got me here. Individuals in America and the UK (can’t speak for anywhere else, I’ll limit it to where my experience lies) do not have a choice they can make that will get them the things they need at a reasonable price. It is not their fault for wanting too much or anything else.
It’s not accusations, it’s a statement of a fact. How many smartphones would an average westerner own in their life? How much clothes? All other useless “things” that nobody can live without? When europoors were starving and couldn’t afford living in Europe, they moved and colonised America and Siberia, maybe it’s time to think about moving to Venezuela or something where you’d definitely be able to afford a house and whatnot?
And on a slightly less vitriolic note, why blame corpos for inequality when you yourself vote for the officials who make the corpo dreams come true? I mean they do only what people allow them to do.
Lmao I’m sorry do only “westerners” have phones? Or clothes? Do people outside the west not have trinkets that they don’t really need? Of course they fucking do. Moving to a poorer country only works if you move with significant capital… If you are from America and you have no money, moving to Venezuela just means you still have no money but now you live in Venezuela, not sure how that’s supposed to help.
Not sure what your point is re politicians. They bear culpability alongside the capitalists, yes.
the question is how much. When did you buy your last phone? A year ago? Two? I’m still rocking my nokia dumb phone I got like 15 years ago. Same with everything else. The consumption is orders of magnitude more, literally.
When you or I bought our phones doesn’t matter because even if I bought a top of the line phone once per year that wouldn’t buy me a house. I don’t, fwiw, and I’m privileged enought to be able to afford to buy a house - but I also don’t make the mistake of thinking that being frugal is what got me here. Individuals in America and the UK (can’t speak for anywhere else, I’ll limit it to where my experience lies) do not have a choice they can make that will get them the things they need at a reasonable price. It is not their fault for wanting too much or anything else.