16 Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, 17 that each person who belongs to God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Except we know that it was written by people, indeed as scripture itself says it is. St Paul wrote that letter to Timothy, the Gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew, etc. Personality traits of the writers are present, such as St Luke who was a doctor having a few medical influences on his work. Matthew was Jewish and explains Jewish prophecy, and St John focuses on Christology, demonstrates a rivalry with St Peter and also shows his dislike for Judas Iscariot. St Paul laments his past.
Read your quote again.
Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, that each person who belongs to God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
What is scripture useful for teaching, reproof and correcting in what? Righteousness, and to equip for good work. St Paul clealry states it’s an authority on Morality. Scripture is not useful for taxonomy, the exact political positions of figures at the time, or for determining the age of the earth. Scripture is for equipping yourself to live a God honouring life and it tells the Gospel message of Christ’s Virgin birth, Ministry and teaching, His suffering of death, His resurrection and ascension, and that He will return in glory to judge both the living and the dead; that His Kingdom will have no end. In light of that we can be equipped for every good work and know how to honour God. While there are some useful historical nuggets in The Bible (Nehemiah documents the earliest known usage of passports) it’s not a taxonomy, geology, astronomy or biology book.
It’s a stupid, backwards book encouraging people to join a literal death cult.
Scripture is for equipping yourself to live a God honouring life
The god who chose to make us suffer? Nah, fuck that guy. Glad he’s not real. Unfortunately, human bullshitters are killing us in his name anyway.
Interesting how god inspired exactly enough of the bible for you to cherry pick the parts you care about. Interesting that god failed to convey basic aspects of the universe he supposedly created. Weak god.
The basic aspects of the universe that God created can be observed and explored. He didn’t need to convey it in written scripture, which is the only way a redemption story could have been preserved.
Once again, it appears your argument fell apart but you’re trying to claim victory anyway
backwards book encouraging people to join a literal death cult.
The god who chose to make us suffer? Nah, fuck that guy.
Seems to be a heart issue ragher than a head issue. Basically all human suffering is a product of human activity anyway and the rejection of God, God doesn’t inflict suffering on us. Suffering is caused by the lack of goodness. But God does promise us the end of all suffering anyway. He will punish all wickedness and exalt the humble and meek. All one must do is accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour, and let Him transform them. He will have eternal life.
The basic aspects of the universe that God created can be observed and explored. He didn’t need to convey it in written scripture, which is the only way a redemption story could have been preserved.
Excuse me? Your excuse is “he didn’t have to do it”? So you believe he chose to do it, but fucked it up because he didn’t actually care that much?
Why do we need a redemption story instead of just… love?
Once again, it appears your argument fell apart but you’re trying to claim victory anyway
Which argument? When did I claim victory? Take care not to project, I don’t think like you do.
Seems to be a heart issue ragher than a head issue.
No, silly goose, the heart pumps blood. The brain does the thinking. My brain sees a godless world. My brain sees irreconcilable errors in the bible and its believers.
For the record, I was a believer for a long time. My parents wouldn’t have it any other way. They violently brainwashed me, their real child, in the name of their fake god.
See my first and only post for a song I wrote about it.
But irrespective of my own experience, it is factual that we have zero evidence for god’s existence.
Basically all human suffering is a product of human activity anyway and the rejection of God, God doesn’t inflict suffering on us.
So god is not all-powerful?
Because you can’t have it both ways. If he is all-powerful, knew what would happen, knew what we would do with our free will and chose to make us and this world anyway, literally everything is his choice.
Suffering is caused by the lack of goodness.
Nah, it’s caused by selfish dipshits like you. And disease. And natural disasters. Did god decide random suffering was necessary in addition to his utterly arbitrary curses?
Why does anyone suffer for choices they did not make?
But God does promise us the end of all suffering anyway. He will punish all wickedness and exalt the humble and meek. All one must do is accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour, and let Him transform them. He will have eternal life.
It’s a death cult. Grow up. My friends are dead because you love this baseless, abusive bullshit more than real life.
My friends are dead because you love this baseless, abusive bullshit more than real life.
You don’t know me, yet you make these accusations against me. Why?
I read your song a while ago. If I may- what did John Stowe and Christine do? It appears you also say that your parents physically abused you as an infant. This is not okay. You also said they worshipped a different god to the bible?
You don’t know me, yet you make these accusations against me. Why?
In the few interactions we have had, you have actively defended a death cult. This behavior harms you, me, and everyone else. I consider it a sign of dangerous unintelligence when someone pretends that magic is real, a staggering lack of reading comprehension to fail to recognize the bible as fiction.
I read your song a while ago. If I may- what did John Stowe and Christine do? It appears you also say that your parents physically abused you as an infant.
Thanks. Yes, they hit my brothers and me when we were young. They stopped when we got older, presumably because they feared we’d start to hit back. My parents violently forced me to attend church three times a week, where we were yelled at by our southern baptist pastor that we would all burn forever in hell if we didn’t accept the “love” of Jesus. I have been suicidal all my life.
I wasn’t going to accept Jesus until my parents forced me to go to a summer camp. There I was told that if I went to hell, my parents in heaven would miss me. So I “accepted Jesus” and all the abusive bullshit that came with it. I believed in god for decades, but it made me a shitty person. God is your own ego given divine authority.
This is not okay.
I agree. But it’s the norm in the bible belt. People laugh at me for pointing out how bad it was, people insist I am weak for crying out instead of acknowledging that it was child abuse. They want to keep spreading their cult until it kills us all because they think they’re going to heaven. So I push back on magical thinking, but especially christianity, whenever I can.
You also said they worshipped a different god to the bible?
Everyone does. The god of the bible is inconsistent with the god of the bible, so each believer makes up their own version of him and pretends it’s the same.
Specifically, I believed in a loving god, but my parents embodied the cruel and violent tyrant of the old testament.
In the few interactions we have had, you have actively defended a death cult. This behavior harms you, me, and everyone else. I consider it a sign of dangerous unintelligence when someone pretends that magic is real, a staggering lack of reading comprehension to fail to recognize the bible as fiction.
This just comes off as bigotry. Plain and simple. There’s nothing unintelligent with being religious or the lack thereof it. Yes, I, like the majority of humanity, believe in the supernatural. There’s nothing wrong with that.
If you’re referring to your specific upbringing within a family in the Southern United States within a Baptist denomination as the “death cult”, then no, I am not defending that. It sounds like they didn’t even teach you anything about “believe or you’ll perish” but didn’t give you anything to believe in.
Specifically, I believed in a loving god, but my parents embodied the cruel and violent tyrant of the old testament.
This is a misconception. Jesus in the New Testament talks about hell and warns of impending doom, in addition to Revelation (more than the old testament). While the Old Testament also demonstrates God’s patience and love, teaches you to love your neighbour, etc.
God didn’t write the Bible. You’re thinking of Islam and the Qur’an.
I was thinking of 2 Timothy 3:
Except we know that it was written by people, indeed as scripture itself says it is. St Paul wrote that letter to Timothy, the Gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew, etc. Personality traits of the writers are present, such as St Luke who was a doctor having a few medical influences on his work. Matthew was Jewish and explains Jewish prophecy, and St John focuses on Christology, demonstrates a rivalry with St Peter and also shows his dislike for Judas Iscariot. St Paul laments his past.
Read your quote again.
What is scripture useful for teaching, reproof and correcting in what? Righteousness, and to equip for good work. St Paul clealry states it’s an authority on Morality. Scripture is not useful for taxonomy, the exact political positions of figures at the time, or for determining the age of the earth. Scripture is for equipping yourself to live a God honouring life and it tells the Gospel message of Christ’s Virgin birth, Ministry and teaching, His suffering of death, His resurrection and ascension, and that He will return in glory to judge both the living and the dead; that His Kingdom will have no end. In light of that we can be equipped for every good work and know how to honour God. While there are some useful historical nuggets in The Bible (Nehemiah documents the earliest known usage of passports) it’s not a taxonomy, geology, astronomy or biology book.
It’s a stupid, backwards book encouraging people to join a literal death cult.
The god who chose to make us suffer? Nah, fuck that guy. Glad he’s not real. Unfortunately, human bullshitters are killing us in his name anyway.
Interesting how god inspired exactly enough of the bible for you to cherry pick the parts you care about. Interesting that god failed to convey basic aspects of the universe he supposedly created. Weak god.
The basic aspects of the universe that God created can be observed and explored. He didn’t need to convey it in written scripture, which is the only way a redemption story could have been preserved.
Once again, it appears your argument fell apart but you’re trying to claim victory anyway
Seems to be a heart issue ragher than a head issue. Basically all human suffering is a product of human activity anyway and the rejection of God, God doesn’t inflict suffering on us. Suffering is caused by the lack of goodness. But God does promise us the end of all suffering anyway. He will punish all wickedness and exalt the humble and meek. All one must do is accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour, and let Him transform them. He will have eternal life.
Excuse me? Your excuse is “he didn’t have to do it”? So you believe he chose to do it, but fucked it up because he didn’t actually care that much?
Why do we need a redemption story instead of just… love?
Which argument? When did I claim victory? Take care not to project, I don’t think like you do.
No, silly goose, the heart pumps blood. The brain does the thinking. My brain sees a godless world. My brain sees irreconcilable errors in the bible and its believers.
For the record, I was a believer for a long time. My parents wouldn’t have it any other way. They violently brainwashed me, their real child, in the name of their fake god.
See my first and only post for a song I wrote about it.
But irrespective of my own experience, it is factual that we have zero evidence for god’s existence.
So god is not all-powerful?
Because you can’t have it both ways. If he is all-powerful, knew what would happen, knew what we would do with our free will and chose to make us and this world anyway, literally everything is his choice.
Nah, it’s caused by selfish dipshits like you. And disease. And natural disasters. Did god decide random suffering was necessary in addition to his utterly arbitrary curses?
Why does anyone suffer for choices they did not make?
It’s a death cult. Grow up. My friends are dead because you love this baseless, abusive bullshit more than real life.
You don’t know me, yet you make these accusations against me. Why?
I read your song a while ago. If I may- what did John Stowe and Christine do? It appears you also say that your parents physically abused you as an infant. This is not okay. You also said they worshipped a different god to the bible?
In the few interactions we have had, you have actively defended a death cult. This behavior harms you, me, and everyone else. I consider it a sign of dangerous unintelligence when someone pretends that magic is real, a staggering lack of reading comprehension to fail to recognize the bible as fiction.
Thanks. Yes, they hit my brothers and me when we were young. They stopped when we got older, presumably because they feared we’d start to hit back. My parents violently forced me to attend church three times a week, where we were yelled at by our southern baptist pastor that we would all burn forever in hell if we didn’t accept the “love” of Jesus. I have been suicidal all my life.
I wasn’t going to accept Jesus until my parents forced me to go to a summer camp. There I was told that if I went to hell, my parents in heaven would miss me. So I “accepted Jesus” and all the abusive bullshit that came with it. I believed in god for decades, but it made me a shitty person. God is your own ego given divine authority.
I agree. But it’s the norm in the bible belt. People laugh at me for pointing out how bad it was, people insist I am weak for crying out instead of acknowledging that it was child abuse. They want to keep spreading their cult until it kills us all because they think they’re going to heaven. So I push back on magical thinking, but especially christianity, whenever I can.
Everyone does. The god of the bible is inconsistent with the god of the bible, so each believer makes up their own version of him and pretends it’s the same.
Specifically, I believed in a loving god, but my parents embodied the cruel and violent tyrant of the old testament.
This just comes off as bigotry. Plain and simple. There’s nothing unintelligent with being religious or the lack thereof it. Yes, I, like the majority of humanity, believe in the supernatural. There’s nothing wrong with that.
If you’re referring to your specific upbringing within a family in the Southern United States within a Baptist denomination as the “death cult”, then no, I am not defending that. It sounds like they didn’t even teach you anything about “believe or you’ll perish” but didn’t give you anything to believe in.
This is a misconception. Jesus in the New Testament talks about hell and warns of impending doom, in addition to Revelation (more than the old testament). While the Old Testament also demonstrates God’s patience and love, teaches you to love your neighbour, etc.