Another CEO for mozilla. Good or bad news?

  • treadful@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    Hard to say. You kind of want someone that was part of a successful product. And successful for-profit products are almost always menaces.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, but hiring someone who’s good at making for-profit “services” successful generally means you want your product to be for-profit.

      And as you say, successful for-profit companies are often menaces.

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      9 months ago

      Would you call any of those successful products ‘good’ tho? Yes they have made a lot of money but at the same time…2 of 3 are straight up evil. Ebay…eh. Could be worse. Thats the best I can say for them. Paypal has straight up stolen people’s money on countless occasions and gotten away with it. Then there was that huge violin fiasco. Airbnb is flat out a part of destroying the housing market, they know this, they don’t care.

      I get it, most big companies are ‘menaces’ like you say but…these are absolutely horrible companies responsible for true evil and, odds are, he’s going to bring that energy to Mozilla.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t really disagree, but what do you want as an organization, someone that built a “good” product that nobody ever used and fell into obscurity? Or someone that built a product that attracted and retained millions of users that you might consider “bad”? And tbh, most of the “bad” from these products is just because of their size and monopoly, which would arguably be a good problem to have for Mozilla.

        Probably an easy choice if I was on the board.

        Also, not that it matters to our discussion but just as a minor correction, the new CEO is a woman.

      • iopq@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Airbnb actually provides a useful service, unlike PayPal which only extracts fees

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            9 months ago

            Didn’t say that, I’m comparing companies that do nothing useful to companies that do something useful

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                  9 months ago

                  No, but you are bringing up the merrits of an equally evil company and said thiet success is a sign of why they should be at the helm. I’m just trying to understand this.

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                    9 months ago

                    Air bnb is not evil, it’s people exchanging services for money. They just resolve disputes, show reviews, etc.

                    The difference with PayPal is that they are not in any business, so they can’t necessarily resolve disputes other than relating to the payment itself. But the credit card issuer has exactly the same job, so PayPal is an extraneous intermediary

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          9 months ago

          Giving an avenue for rich development companies to snatch up properties they can short-term rent to rich travelers is a useful service?

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              9 months ago

              Assuning thats normally for hotels and such, not as easily, no. AirBnB’s specific purpose is to remove barriers of entry for hosting people in your property. Initially that meant renting one of your rooms to a traveler on the cheap. Now it means companies that would otherwise have to jump through tons of regulatory hoops to put their properties on booking sites.

              Not to mention… even if its the same, then its the same and still not a useful service, yeah? It’s just another booking service. Which, coincidentally, mostly extracts fees.