• rozodru@piefed.world
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    11 天前

    yeah at UofA of all places, a place that has quite a big CS department. these kids are graduating in hopes of getting jobs that simply don’t exist for them. they have every right to boo him.

    I went to high school in Tucson and would routinely go to the UofA for LAN Parties. They also had an awesome Arcade on campus. UofA is the last place to go gloating about AI taking jobs.

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      and CS already has a problem with job prospects for the last 10years, are employers even hiring them as undergrad, i feel like any stem would need some form of grad school.

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      Im still not totally convinced that its going to take entry level CS jobs. I have the concern, but part of me thinks the job will expand to things like MCP server building, harness creation or implementation, etc. In other words, any jobs lost to llm efficiency in producing code will be offset by needing to build more stuff.

      In addition, even if agents are doing some of the gruntwork, they wont be fully autonomous as they currently are. Anyone doing that (unsupervised coding) is going to get burned. Therefore, the new bottlenecks is review, but also business contezt complexity.

      Can i build things faater than before? Yes, but my new problem is keeping track of it all.

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          When the AI companies have to start charging more to actually turn profits.

          Right now their prices are artificially cheap to grow their user base, but they’re losing money. Eventually they have to recoup those losses, and when that happens LLMs are going to look a lot less attractive than they do right now.

          Might be soon if the energy crisis gets much worse. Market crashes usually happen in October after all…

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          If you asked me last year, i might say its an existential crisis and they wont come back. Now though, I dont think thats necessarily a guarenteed outcome.

          The more I use AI at work, and the more I experiment with custom harnesses/agents, the more clear it is that every task it does provides an output that must be validated and checked. Therefore, its a convenience tool.

          Before VisiCalc, peoole had to make spreadsheets by hand on litteral paper. Manual calculations with a seperate calculator. Did VisiCalc (and later Excel) get rid of entry level jobs? I dont think it did.

          We already have ample evidence of large companies trying to replace people with AI, with disasterous results. For the companies that have been reducing headcount because of AI, all they are doing is exposing themselves to future competitors. MS and Google become IBM and Bell Labs. New, hungry competitora take their place, and they hire like mad so their competitors dont get the talent.

          We are seeing this play out right now in the case of hardware. Buying up all current and future supply to prevent competitors from having enough compute (without them getting a taste of course), but thats another story.

          As to when? Beats me man, i work for a small startup that is still in “hire people we know” mode.