west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro

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    4 days ago

    Don’t you think it’s a bit over the top representation of the MLs? They’re way more cohesive than that, and there’s no Stalin in the “Marxist-Leninist”.

    It’s not about universal hate towards a particular nation - more about the idea how our current society is becoming progressively more unbearable by denying life basics to the common folk. Things like “earning a living wage” implies that below a certain threshold we don’t deserve to live. Real estate developers scalping the housing, making it unaffordable. All while a few hundred people owns a huge portion of wealth, constantly growing it and meddling into politics.

    Other things like the reality of not actually being able to vote things away once totalitarian parties takeover a country’s legal systems using democratic means.

    There’s plenty of that going as to why many like Karl Marx as a literary inspiration.

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      and there’s no Stalin in the “Marxist-Leninist”.

      “Marxism-Leninism” is Stalinists’ preferred term for their political ideology. They endorse the genocidal tyranny of Stalin, while claiming that Stalin’s tyranny is justified by Lenin’s and Marx’s theory.

      If someone calls themselves a “Marxist-Leninist”, just ask what they think of Stalin’s genocides (plural). Then stand back.

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        The ml multi-paragraph response under this is 🤌

        Got them going like a top. The tldr is always the same

        “When [bad country] commits an atrocity it’s obviously because they’re mustache twirling villains. When my dictator commits an atrocity, it’s really due to complex material conditions and the state of geopolitics and capitalist counter-revolutionaries and probably the CIA and Mercury was in retrograde and the sun was in his eyes and …”

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      I think OP pointed out Stalin because there’s a disturbing amount of Stalinism coming from there. I think you’d have to search very long to find someone on Lemmy as a whole who actually disagrees broadly with the philosophy of Marx. However, when it comes to turning this philosophy into an actual political system, that’s when things get a lot more iffy.