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    yes, the ‘church’ that was burning heretics opposed to fealty to the king of rome then produced a schism that also burned heretics

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        plenty of christians did not have interest in swearing fealty to the king of rome, and were killed for it, long before there was the protestant schism. you ask for proof, i point to your own ‘church’'s history

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          articles, links, etc

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            this is your religions history, you really need links??

            pre-schism imperial church violence:

            donatists: north african christians who refused communion with bishops who had collaborated with roman persecution. augustine developed the theological justification for using imperial force against them. precursor to the inquisition

            arians: christians who held that christ was subordinate to the father. it was a position enforced by some emperors and violently suppressed by others depending on who was in power. the nicene settlement was imposed by imperial authority, not theological consensus

            paul of constantinople: patriarch of constantinople, exiled multiple times for refusing to accept the arian settlement imposed by emperor constantius. eventually strangled on imperial orders

            eusebius of samosata: bishop who refused the imperial arian settlement, stoned to death by an arian woman while in exile

            martin of tours: refused communion with bishops who supported the imperial execution of priscillian, arguing the state had no business executing heretics

            bogomils: balkan christian movement rejecting church hierarchy, sacraments and material wealth. persecuted by both byzantine and later catholic authorities, their suppression in bosnia was a direct precursor to the albigensian crusade

            violence against christian heretics and orthodox:

            waldensians

            albigensian crusade/cathars

            sack of constantinople

            the inquisition

            spiritual franciscans

            jan hus/hussites

            violence against muslims and jews:

            the crusades

            rhineland massacres

            spanish inquisition

            reconquista

            colonial and indigenous violence:

            inter caetera/colonial americas

            california missions

            residential schools

            violence against women and the poor:

            witch trials

            magdalene laundries

            nazi collaboration:

            ustaše

            reichskonkordat

            ratlines

            pius xii and the holocaust

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              most of the Arian Controversy deaths were because of Arianists, who are not Catholics

              Arianism is not a belief of the church, what re you trying to convey?

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              Andmost of these are misguided priests or single Individuals perpetuating Violence.

              However, some of the actions in these documents are extremely disturbing, but this is why the Catholic Church is constantly improving and learning from its past

              Do not let Judas guide you away from Jesus.