And again, thats literally how everyone keeps the status quo, by saying well this is the reality right now it will be really hard to change it. You gotta start somewhere and do something
Im in MA and there are places all over like deadhorse Hill, armsby, wooden bar, fox farm, jewel box, novare res, Maine beer company, treehouse, etc
Your choice of establishments do not disprove my point. Most are breweries, which don’t have the typical sit-down type restaurant experience in which a tipped position is most common/expected. But, nonetheless, I looked at each one.
Deadhorse Hill. Eschews voluntary tipping for a set 20% service charge. This is just tipping with another name.
Armsy Abbey. No mention of tipping policy on their website or menu. Perhaps they do in person.
Wooden Bar. No mention of tipping policy on their website or menu. Perhaps they do in person.
Fox Farm. Does not have food.
Jewel Box. Permanently closed.
Maine Beer Company. Does not specifically call out tipping policy, but notes “All contributions made above and beyond your final check will be donated to nonprofits,” suggesting that tipping is not expected. That’s pretty cool. Also appears to have counter, not sit down, service, and a very limited menu.
Novare Res. No mention of tipping policy on their website or menu. Perhaps they do in person.
Treehouse. No mention of tipping policy on their website or menu. Perhaps they do in person.
By sit down, I mean there’s a server who takes your order and brings your food. The type of service most associated with tipping. I’ve never been there, but Maine Beer Co. really really doesn’t look like that’s the type of service. I’d put money on it being “counter service.” The only “full” sit down restaurant on your list appears to be the first one, the one that has a 20% service charge. You can’t use this as an example of no-tipping. It is still a tipped establishment.
It’s all fine and good that the establishments say that, but they’d be well advised to advertise the fact.
I’m a restaurant consultant by trade, with 75 clients currently, and managed restaurants for twenty years. I have no doubt your friends at these places are well compensated, but I’m wary of the claim that they are so specifically because of a no-tipping policy.
And again, thats literally how everyone keeps the status quo, by saying well this is the reality right now it will be really hard to change it. You gotta start somewhere and do something
Im in MA and there are places all over like deadhorse Hill, armsby, wooden bar, fox farm, jewel box, novare res, Maine beer company, treehouse, etc
Your choice of establishments do not disprove my point. Most are breweries, which don’t have the typical sit-down type restaurant experience in which a tipped position is most common/expected. But, nonetheless, I looked at each one.
Jewel Box was open a month ago when I went and as far as I can tell is still open based on both their website and their Instagram.
Maine Beer Co has sit down service for sure
And the others pay their workers living wage, most have it on signs in the restaurant/bar/brewery and again i know most of the people there.
Perhaps I was looking at the wrong Jewel Box.
By sit down, I mean there’s a server who takes your order and brings your food. The type of service most associated with tipping. I’ve never been there, but Maine Beer Co. really really doesn’t look like that’s the type of service. I’d put money on it being “counter service.” The only “full” sit down restaurant on your list appears to be the first one, the one that has a 20% service charge. You can’t use this as an example of no-tipping. It is still a tipped establishment.
It’s all fine and good that the establishments say that, but they’d be well advised to advertise the fact.
I’m a restaurant consultant by trade, with 75 clients currently, and managed restaurants for twenty years. I have no doubt your friends at these places are well compensated, but I’m wary of the claim that they are so specifically because of a no-tipping policy.