• PugJesus@kbin.socialOP
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    9 months ago

    It wasn’t that they yearned for royalist ideals to be reinstated,

    It literally was, though. The language conflict you’re describing didn’t hit full swing until the Third Republic. The revolt in the Vendee was largely a reactionary movement by peasantry who were miffed at the idea of the bourgeois taking the place of the traditional aristocracy and clergy. The Vendee itself spoke lang d’oil and is, in fact, one of the original regions of lang d’oil.

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      9 months ago

      Bullshit it didn’t hit full swing until the third republic the third republic was just when it also picked up the dynamic of the religious and language rights of immigrant communities because of all the colonialism the third republic was doing in Africa and the ME

      Immigrant communities btw who were the actual resistance backbone in WWII, and who go unrecognized because the french right were collaborators who wanted their stories stamped out to preserve french nationalist narratives, and the french left were the backstabbing stalinists who sold them out to the Nazis before liberation came so that they’d get to take credit for all the heavy lifting post war and wanted to cover up their own complicity.

      Never trust a “leftist” who thinks state sponsored murder is a good idea. They have no interest in anything except to be the executioner, and to feel nice and self righteous when they pull the trigger.

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          9 months ago

          I mean they literally did exactly that until Stalin ordered them to start fighting after Barbarossa, after which point they began coopting the resistance movement already started by immigrants, jews, and other social rejects who stalinists also cast out for being rootless cosmopolitans or subversive agents of bourgeois decadence.

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              9 months ago

              They literally cooperated with the occupation until Barbarossa because Stalin was angling to join the Axis.

              Had the Soviet Axis talks gone as Stalin planned, the French Communists would have readily and eagerly lined up to collaborate on Stalin’s orders, because they specifically didn’t do shit to resist until Stalin ordered it.

              This is also why I balk at dismissal of Social Democrats as being unworthy of being called leftist ever, that was a determination made by Stalin in the wake of Nordic socialist parties not bending the knee for him.

              Stalin formed a new internationale specifically to exclude them and anyone who also didn’t bend the knee, then meanwhile the same bastard orders non-cooperation with anti-fascist resistance because it’d harsh his street cred with the fascists.

              Man sold out europe for the hope of negotiating control Bulgaria and Turkey out of letting everyone west of his borders eat it and die horribly.