• therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    in specific circumstances

    No, in all circumstances. For instance, the justifications of the coloniser can be dismissed out of hand - in all circumstances.

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      I said to themselves, that doesn’t mean others can’t disagree and easily. While I don’t agree with Zionist reasoning they seem to feel justified through the argument that greater Israel is promised to them by their God. Always a fun one when people use their religion, it’s ultimately infallible to themselves through their faith albeit clearly misguided to those not faithful.

      It’s human nature at its core. Someone wants something, they craft a reasoning to get it and honestly it’s rare that the reasoning is actually any good, but all the same they believe it and they are internally justified to themselves. That doesn’t mean the justification is good or accurate or right or not easily dismissible by others, it just means they’re justified to themselves as I originally stated.

      A mind typically can’t or at least doesn’t do what it itself has not justified and unfortunately for us all human minds aren’t logically consistent, they are storytellers and you can bend logic two ways to Sunday with the right story at least for those who want to hear it.

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        It’s human nature at its core.

        Bullcrap. It’s perfectly obvious where right-wing ideology comes from and who it benefits… stop pretending that all justifications are in any way equal and simply “human nature.”

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          Have you spent time with people like outside of politics or like spent time with children? Person wants X, they justify why they will or should get X. Man I know I’m on a diet but I worked out really hard today so yeah I’ma get that tub of ice cream.

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            like spent time with children?

            How many children do you know that that perpetrates colonialist slaughter?

            I’ma get that tub of ice cream.

            Your attempt to de-politicise this discussion is not working - I wonder why.

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              For reference we’re not just talking about a singular occurrence or at least I’m not, I never was.

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                For reference we’re not just talking about a singular occurrence

                Sooo… you’re saying children perpetrating colonialist slaughter is not a singular occurence?

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                  Not what I meant but to entertain your continual attempts to alter the topic of discussion, in the history of humanity I suspect that’s not unique.

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                    Then what the fuck did you mean?

                    Is there any other point to your meandering narrative other than you trying to de-politicise that which is obviously political?