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Sam Altman claimed we’re already living through the singularity. Is it true, or is it just marketing? Just days before, one of OpenAI’s models escaped from a testing environment and ended up hacking another company’s servers on its own. We analyze how real that claim is and what the experts say.

And from there, we jump to something bigger: can artificial intelligence have a soul? We delve into the debate that has divided physicists, neuroscientists, and philosophers, from Roger Penrose’s quantum theory to the arguments of Sean Carroll and Max Tegmark, including integrated information theory and the thermodynamics of life. Spoiler alert: even physics can’t agree.

    • Strider@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 days ago

      An llm can and will not have an own conscience or motivation or even possibility of acting of its own.

      It can only act triggered and the rest looks like it would be so, but its only parroting.

      Downvotes or not, it is factually missing parts to get there.

      Its like saying the currently most advanced self driving car is possible to develop into knight riders kitt. It’s not biology. It needs the components to be able to.

      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        7 days ago

        This is about the consequences of recursively training AI on AI-generated content. It doesn’t have anything to do with volition or true intelligence. There’s a good article about it here.

        This is the AI Grey Goo scenario: an internet choked with low-quality content, which never improves, where it is almost impossible to locate public reliable sources for information because the tools we have been able to rely on in the past – Google, social media – can never keep up with the scale of new content being created. Where the volume of content created overwhelms human or algorithmic abilities to sift through it quickly and find high-quality stuff.

        The social and political consequences of this are huge. We have grown so used to information abundance, the greatest gift of the internet, that having that disrupted would be a major upheaval for the whole of society.

        • Strider@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 days ago

          Now I am beginning to understand the layer you are talking about. It wasn’t clear to me so far.

          But you seem intelligent, may I introduce you to the double empathy problem? It’s why you’ve (or possibly others) downvoted me, I just want to point out, since we didn’t understand each other right.

          Communication is hard and maybe this will go a small bit in some random future communication.

          I still define all this as ‘regular’ man made issues. And yes they’re true and really bad, and insanely, large groups are falling for it. But from a technological standpoint I do have a very different understanding of it (not better or worse, different). It’s not a threat evolved by AI. It’s just us.