Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.
They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.
They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.
People advocating for doing the exact same thing that made Trump viable as a candidate to begin with don’t get to use Trump as a cudgel. Fuck all the way off with that nonsense.
Not really, I’m not the one complaining, not into proving a negative. She won fair and square, if you don’t like prove it was manipulated and it altered the result. Burden of proof, and all that.
The notion of “superdelegates” is inherently anathema to democracy. Every vote counts equal. Introducing a class of people whose votes are worth more than others inherently corrupts the process. Since the superdelegates overwhelmingly supported Hillary, they gave her an unfair advantage.
Hillary won against Bernie because the deck was stacked in her favor. Of course, she didn’t have any sort of unfair advantage in the presidential election, where she proceeded to lose against Trump, of all people. Because she couldn’t rig that contest.
Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.
They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.
They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.
Fuck ‘centrists’. They’re all fascists too.
It’s crazy they couldn’t see the excitement Bernie was creating. The only one who was excited for Hillary was Hillary.
They certainly could see the excitement Bernie was creating and it scared them because it was a threat to their self-serving agenda.
I hate that the entire political apparatus in the US hinges on a few assholes’ egos, but it’s what we’re stuck with
Few assholes’ egos… and hundreds of millions of voters who support them.
No.
A hundred million people given nothing but a false choice.
They had Bernie, and about 17 candidates who weren’t trump. Guess who won…
And the millions of people who voted for her…
Way to create alliances and building bridges.
There’s no alliance to be made with the party that’s decided it serves the enemy.
Wall Street is the enemy. No party that takes corporate donations at all can claim not to be serving the enemy.
I’m sure that will defeat the next trump.
Enjoy.
People advocating for doing the exact same thing that made Trump viable as a candidate to begin with don’t get to use Trump as a cudgel. Fuck all the way off with that nonsense.
I’m sure calling centrists “fascists” will work splendidly. Enjoy, I’ll be over here, having universal Healthcare and parental leave.
So even without the superdelegates, Hillary was winning?
I’ve already outlined how the superdelegates could have given Hillary an advantage in winning regular primaries.
Yes, while admitting she was ahead anyway…
She wouldn’t have been ahead without the superdelegates demoralizing the Bernie supporters.
And of course you have proof of this, other than “trust me bro, the ref is to blame”?
I’ve shown that she had a significant unfair advantage. Proving that she’d have won if things were fair is on you.
Not really, I’m not the one complaining, not into proving a negative. She won fair and square, if you don’t like prove it was manipulated and it altered the result. Burden of proof, and all that.
The notion of “superdelegates” is inherently anathema to democracy. Every vote counts equal. Introducing a class of people whose votes are worth more than others inherently corrupts the process. Since the superdelegates overwhelmingly supported Hillary, they gave her an unfair advantage.
Hillary won against Bernie because the deck was stacked in her favor. Of course, she didn’t have any sort of unfair advantage in the presidential election, where she proceeded to lose against Trump, of all people. Because she couldn’t rig that contest.