I’m done, I’ve been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I’ve been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I’ve ever had on any lemmy instance), I’ve had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I’ve had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

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    Yep, got a ban on ML without even realizing what was going on and just for asking who people should vote for besides Biden if we weren’t voting for Biden. That was considered “reactionary” and “reddit” behavior. Was also cited Mao where he says that anyone who doesn’t fully understand all aspects of an issue has no right to ask questions–they literally believe that.

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      I didn’t get banned but got a couple of my comments deleted from ML. I don’t even know what they were but I don’t usually go back and forth with people in a thread so the mod had to go through my history and just delete comments from various threads that I had made on their instance.

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        ML is one of those instances filled with people who sort site-wide comments by new and hit F5 every 10 seconds all day long. They are literally waiting to pounce.

        My mistake was trying to be closer to the devs, which would mean quicker updates. I had no idea that ML meant Marxism-Leninism.

        ETA: I don’t actually have a problem with communism and more or less accept the basic tenants. These people, however, are no different from Evangelicals or Sovereign Citizens.

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      Was also cited Mao where he says that anyone who doesn’t fully understand all aspects of an issue has no right to ask questions–they literally believe that.

      Yeah… Sounds about right. That sub likes to latch onto some pretty fundamental misunderstandings of Mao’s writings.

      The real quote is “NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK”. Which basically boils down to - you should probably do some research before arguing with people.

      Which on it’s face value is pretty generic, but decent advise. What it doesn’t mean is that you can’t question someone else’s viewpoint.

      I think the most ironic part of this is in that same essay Mao writes about the importance of self criticism, and argues that we shouldn’t inherently trust appeals to authority.

      "It is quite wrong to take a formalistic attitude and blindly carry out directives without discussing and examining them in the light of actual conditions simply because they come from a higher organ. "

      That sub likes to pretend they spend time reading theory, when in reality its just an echo chamber that amplifies the vapid view point of a couple different active users. Users whom like to pretend that every bad decision the CCP ever made were errors forced upon them by the West. Even when it’s something like the cultural revolution, which even the CCP itself has admitted was misguided.

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        I am so thankful to read this comment. My experiences with them really left me feeling confused. It is good to understand that I was not alone in these experiences.

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          Imo they saw how effective shit posting on Reddit was for nursing extremist right wing views and decided to copy the formula. However, they didn’t understand that the motivation for fascist are fundamentally antithetical to what motivates most socialist.

          Fascist are fueled by divisive propaganda, dividing and conquering your foes. While socialism is fueled by collectivism, turning your enemy into your friends via mutual support.