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    This has nothing to do with cashless society, it’s because they don’t want to pay their taxes.

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      That’s possible, though inferred rather than stated. But whether they are being forthcoming about all of their motivations for the preference, either or both are good reasons.

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        I mean taxation is theft anyways.

        Correct, that is why IRS “agents” carry guns.

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    You would not believe how many cash payments in the end customer food and service industry never make it to the books.

    What’s next? “Save the Planet! Save Paper! Get 5% off if you don’t need an invoice!”

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      It seems that crypto bros have begun to raid lemmy recently, and for raid i mean that yhey just have been coming in big quantities, since the other day i was talking bad about crypto and got downvoted a lot, which is weird since i thought most people here didnt like it since the fiasco of past 3 years on crypto and blockchain, and i got a lot of comments deffending it too.

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        Many are coming from reddit (another communist hellhole). State worshipers hate crypto because it is a tool for freedom. It peacefully rips the power over money from state control and by extension banker control, since the bankers fully own the bloated communist state that we have in all developed nations today.

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          Dude bankers are not comunist, quite the contrary actually, and reddit are mostly lefty kids, the tankies where in lemmy all along, and you say crypto bros are comming from reddit but also say that they hate crypto too? Wtf. Im confused, you scare me, go away.

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            You are confused, most likely due to your surface level understanding on most topics. Crypto bros are morons who know nothing about crypto. They have some coins on an exchange and are hoping to cash out when it pumps again and go on a vacation.

            You came in here, now go away.

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                Again, the topic is not as simple as “I like crypto”.

                Monero is a decentralize and private by default fair and honest cryto currency that acts exactly like cash in digital format. No one knows if you have it, how much you have, who sent it to you or where you sent it. It is basically the ultimate money. Most “crypto” is useless and scams.

                Just like physical cash except it cannot be manipulated by communists and bankers.

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          By all means, go get scammed with crypto. Meanwhile the rest of us are living in the real world where not a single developed western nation is a communist state.

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            They all have income tax and a central bank, two primary pillars of communism.

            You should stay away from crypto, with your level of intelligence you would lose it all in a week.

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                When your brain has been destroyed by libertarianism, anything done to help anyone else seems like communism.

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                As I said, you have a surface level understanding of communism. You know some general tropes and feel good half-baked intellectual points you absorbed while falling asleep in your communist infiltrated university general studies classes.

                I have done deep research on the topic and at it’s core communism is a demonic system which infiltrates, corrupts, takes control, then enacts total dehumanization and murder.

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                  This is absolutely hilarious, no matter what I say you will still reply.

                  Not only do you think central banks are not just a part of but one of the defining features of a classless, stateless, moneyless society, they’re the key indicator that a state is communist! Add to that that you confuse different people replying to you with each other (or assume everyone is the same person) and you get this wonderfully entertaining mix.

                  Tell me, what else have you done deep research on? Next you’re going to tell everyone that the earth is flat or something aren’t you.

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              And how do you think the road you use are paid? How do you think the military that protect you from communists states are paid?

              By printing free money?

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                They are able to fund massive war crimes such as invasions and mass murder around the world by debasing the currency, drug trafficking and other criminal operations on top of theft known as taxes.

                The military are the ones enforcing communist policies of the bankers on the rest of the world. The only countries that get invaded are ones without a central bank controlled by them.

                Roads are paid for by fuel tax and tolls.

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                  You’d probably suprised that tools and taxes are nowhere enough to pay for the enormous road infrastructure of the US. In avarage it pays for around half of it. The rest is funded by your taxes.

                  One of many sources: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/states-road-funding-2019/

                  As for the accusations of war crimes, mass murder, I unfortunately can only agree as those are well documented. If my memory is right, there is some drug dealing and other criminal scandals here and there, but nowhere enough to fund the behemoth that the US military is.

                  But I fail to see how debasing the currency would fund anything without creating a gigantic inflation. And by that I mean multiple times more that the current one which is mainly caused by the growing cost of energy. So no, i doubt it is how it get funded.

                  As for the “without central bank controlled by them”, of course they aren’t. The central bank is either controlled by the country themselves, or by a community of countries (example: EU central bank). So of course a country invaded by the US wouldn’t have a central bank controlled by the US. And so do all the country NOT invaded by the US. This argument make no sense.

                  The military answer to whomever is the head of state, not to banks. Problem is, of course, if said official is corrupted by the banks, if which case ot is the role of the press to investigate and expose said corruption. With credible evidences of course. So unless you can prove what you are saying with credible evidence, better say it as being an opinion rather than a fact.

                  Oh, and communism is, by definition, against the power of banks. So saying a bank is pushing a communist agenda is kinda… ironic. But that’s my opinion.

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              You realize that these peeps kinda dislike right libertarians already and being a dick doesn’t help, right?

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                I do not subscribe to right left and other BS labels. Either your a good honest person or a coward willing to do anything criminals with a badge or on TV tell you to do.

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        Unfortunately commies are not so rare, this must mean their ideology is correct because they all went through the same indoctrination system in overpriced commie infiltrated universities paid for by daddy.

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          Isn’t it great that a commie is a rich trust fund kid.

          Or that a commie is poor unsuccessful and jealous of the wealthy.

          You can literally just make up anything you want and it doesn’t have to make sense or follow any cohesive logic.

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            Whatever the commie’s financial situation is they are sure to be an idiot.

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          They blocked my instance so I don’t have to see them. Seems like you protect one image on everybody disagreeing with you, that doesn’t seem healthy

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    lol that’s a tax evader, they save 20% and you save 10%, it’s the good old Italian tradition of “you don’t really need a receipt do you”

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    If it would be 1-3%, I understand, because that’s the fee for credit cards. But 10%?? Something is clearly wrong.

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      They are concerned with the totalitarian psychopaths tightening their grip on society. so they are sacrificing their profits to help everyone in society not become a total slave.

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            Glad to see you’re supportive of the elimination of all public healthcare, schools, and social services 👍

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              Yes, they are horrible and have resulted in total mess we have today. People are sicker than ever, dumber than ever, and more homeless than ever.

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    I was wondering… how much does a credit company know if I pay with my cc? Do they know every detail of my lunch menu? If so, that does have something to do with privacy, I’m not very comfortable. If they just know the total amount I pay, then I wouldn’t mind too much, though.

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      They would only know things like location, time , amount. With this data you can build a pretty comprehensive profile about your whole life.

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        Good. “Fight against the cashless society!” is a bit weird motto, coming from Monero supporter, though…

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          If we could have physical Monero cash I would be for it. I am for any honest form of money, blockchain is just the easiest way to accomplish this without the state being able to stop it.

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            What I’d avoid is, things like loyalty cards — cash or not, discount or no discount. I’m sure if I sign up, giving my personal info, something tricky is written in fine print* in the sing up form, in obscure legalese. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch. If you get a discount, you’re actually selling your privacy cheaper than it actually is. *Some_instances_may_be_excluded._Your_mileage_may_vary.

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    I really don’t like cash.

    It’s just too vulnerable to theft and robbery.

    I think Monero is better than cash. Would love to see that get more use in these kind of settings.

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    I agree with the idea and I don’t have this reaction else where but when I see the cash only signs in food places it just makes me jump to tax evasion. Don’t know why it’s only food places that give me that feeling.

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      I believe this is illegal if its in the UK. The EU introduced regulations a few years ago banning fees for credit card payments. As a consumer it was great because lots of businesses were taking the mick charging more than they have to pay but knew people really prefer credit cards. I think this method of trying to get around that is in fact illegal because you are effectively charging more for credit card payments.