• James R Kirk@startrek.website
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    This is one of those times I like to be a pedant and separate LLMs and other generating bots from what I think most people would consider intelligence. Real intelligence made from silicon could serve all of humanity, but LLMs are just the next fancy shitcoin the wealthy and their hangers-on want to convince you spits out something that has high value when it clearly doesn’t (unless you’re in the propaganda business).

    Edited for clarity

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      define “real AI” and not as in “it’s not an LLM”

      edit: also 20 upvotes on this in fuck_ai? c’mon people use your heads…

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            LOL ok you got me I specifically tried to avoid saying that. I meant real intelligence. I’ll edit my comment.

            EDIT: And by “real intelligence” I’m speaking of beings which display traits like curiosity and creativity.

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        They’re good at things you’re not good at. If you’re good at something, and you see them try to do it, they’re shite.

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          LLMs are already better than humans at math and cybersecurity, since around spring this year. If you are a human in those fields, you’re worse, period. I’m not sure why you’d just to around blatantly lying about things you clearly don’t understand.

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        I keep hearing this but what makes them “good”? Like at the end of the day they’re still just LLMs right? Even if they can generate a perfect picture that no human could tell is AI, so what? What is that skill useful for besides fooling humans into believing something is real that isn’t true?

        Heck- they can’t even set a reminder like natural language processing (Siri) could do fifteen years ago.

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          For instance:

          I asked Claude to help me create a website. IMHO the one it built (with some back and forth) was way better than websites I have paid professionals to build.

          Furthermore, it showed me how to get it hosted for free.

          It created programs that keep it updated that do not involve using Claude.

          I currently have a step where I am involved in the updates, but once I have confidence that it can properly handle edge cases I will have it completely automate the process.

          Siri cannot do that.

          MIT says AI can credibly do undergraduate work

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/08/25/ai-can-now-credibly-complete-most-undergraduate-assignments-mit-warns/

          People keep piling into the copium but they should be paying attention.

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            I think you’re misunderstanding my question, I’m not saying LLMs can’t spit out a website so perfectly convincing that it would be impossible to discern from a human made website.

            I’m asking what makes speeding up the creation of such “slop-sites” useful or desirable to anyone?

            EDIT: Maybe you could sell me on why automating undergraduate work is something interesting or helpful?

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          Where I work it has become standard to use these tools. Being dismissive of it’s capabilities is a ship that sailed 2 years ago, and unfortunately it will only get more powerful.

          I hate it though and wish we could put all this back into Pandora’s box.

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            I know you think they’re good, I asked what makes them good. Maybe you can you give an example of what makes them good? It might help me understand your perspective.

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              Theres a really interesting episode of the podcast “diary of s ceo” with the guest Ed Zitron. He says a lot about how we can see some really good uses for AI but not trillions of dollars worth of use. Billions, maybe, but trillions? Personally, im wondering if this is a way for the uber rich to suck as much money out of the rich before the economy collapses.

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                The investment speculation angle really does feel like crypto 2.0. Blockchain tech has some interesting, though niche right now, uses.

                I’m with Ed I absolutely don’t think LLMs are worthless but anyone who thinks a critical mass of real people want to pay real dollars for slop are living a fantasy.