• BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    How many times can Israeli soldiers murder Palestinian children for the crime of “rock-throwing” before you decide enough is enough?

    Just pick a number. Any number.

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      3 days ago

      What culture sends it children into harm’s way to antagonize armed soldiers? Answer: Palestinians.

      Not old enough to shave a beard but old enough to wear a suicide vest… again… Palestinians…

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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      3 days ago

      How about we condemn both Hamas AND IDF for their crimes?

      I know it’s a very novel approach but I think there might be a method in that madness.

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        3 days ago

        OK so we can put you down for “It’s ok for soldiers to murder rock-throwing children”

        Anyone else want to participate?

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          Wrong. Israel is the only one with the capacity to do it successfully.

          (and let’s ignore here for a moment the fact that “Palestinian Genocide” has been on the tongues of people for at least 30 years, and during that time the population of Gaza has nearly doubled, that’s besides the point right now)

          Hamas is absolutely attempting to commit genocide, and if given the tools, they wouldn’t bat an eyelid before pulling the trigger. It just so happens that the best they can do is murder some kids on a concert or fling rockets at crop fields and cities.

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            So in other words, only Israel has the capacity to and is committing genocide and Hamas doesn’t.

            Why don’t you just admit you want to whatabout into justifying genocide? It would be more honest with yourself. A group who fantasizes about committing genocide is very different from a group capable of and actively committing it.

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              Why don’t you just admit you want to whatabout into justifying genocide?

              Yeah, it might look like that if you’re stupid or also a fundamentalist.

              My position is that both Israelis and Palestinians have a right to live there and since they can’t figure it out on their own, the UN should have the capacity to step in, provide a buffer, and kick out the settler criminals, ideally hang Netanyahu and whoever is in charge of Hamas, and then ensure both sides sit separated for as long as it takes for Palestine to normalise as a country.

              You, I take it, are of the opinion that since Israel is the stronger of the two, Hamas has the right to murder them indiscriminately in their “fight for freedom”?

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                Your gaslighting is bad and you should feel bad. You don’t need to commit a genocide to handle a terrorist group. There are people who have rescinded their support for Israel after initially giving it to them after the 7th of October.

                To paraphrase myself from other comments:

                Israel won’t let the UN step in. UN buildings, programs, and investigators were some of the first targeted, and the US has veto power within the UN. One side has the capacity and is committing genocide, and when you bother to look at what they are saying in Israeli social networks, they are not shy about it. Israel also killed the alternatives for Hamas, bolstering it over the PA to prevent the possibility of a legitimate Palestinian state from rising.

                To be completely honest, one, I’ve blocked you now, and two, I find your arguments to be several years out of place. Ask most of the UN members who stepped out if they still work.

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                  Your gaslighting is bad and you should feel bad

                  Where gaslighting?

                  Are you gaslighting me right now?

                  You don’t need to commit a genocide to handle a terrorist group

                  Agreed. Never said otherwise.

                  There are people who have rescinded their support for Israel after initially giving it to them after the 7th of October

                  While this is correct, how is it relevant to the discussion?

                  To paraphrase myself from other comments: (…)

                  Which parts of “UN should” did you not understand?

                  Like, what are you even arguing here? Which specific points I made you disagree with and how?