Last month, the administration said the U.S. will let up to 360,000 people per year enter the country from four countries. A lawsuit filed Tuesday claims the policy is illegal.
Easy it is a label to describe immigration status, like citizen, permanent resident, temporary nonimigrant workers (migrant),…
Immigrating into a country illegally means that person is guess what an illegal immigrant or illegal for short. Your negative views of the word illegal don’t change their status.
Undocumented people may immigrate in a way some people do not consider to be “legal” but they themselves are not illegal therefore “illegals” is a nonsense term.
Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants.
They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.
Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?
What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous “the left” did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
I don’t believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.
I can. If you’re not a US citizen then Trump policies on immigration didn’t impact you in a negative way.
You don’t think things US presidents do can effect other nations? Further you didn’t state “immigration policies” when you said
Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way
I would argue trump has done me more personal harm by ruining my enjoyment of Home Alone 2 than any undocumented immigrant has done me by being undocumented.
I never said you. Keep up. I said the left.
Ah, but you VERY MUCH did say “you”. 👇
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Emphasis mine.
That doesn’t even address what “the left” ostensibly doing something has to do with what standards someone who seemingly does not hold themself to be a member of that group should hold themself.
Ooooo, OP is being a bigot? That’s unfortunate. Here I was giving benefit of the doubt.
In your rush to win the most outraged contest you missed the word sometimes.
Can you explain how referring to a human being as “an illegal” can ever not be derogatory? 🤔
Easy it is a label to describe immigration status, like citizen, permanent resident, temporary nonimigrant workers (migrant),…
Immigrating into a country illegally means that person is guess what an illegal immigrant or illegal for short. Your negative views of the word illegal don’t change their status.
It isn’t being used that way (to describe a status). It is being used to describe a person as “illegal”.
A person being documented or not by a group which claims political authority over a geographic area does not make that person illegal.
It’s no different than calling a person a citizen. Your inability to understand the definition of illegal does not change its definition.
A citizen is a thing a person can be. It’s also a noun.
“Illegal” is not a thing a person can be.
Actions can be against laws but humans cannot.
Illegal is short for illegal immigrant, many people are illegal immigrants.
Undocumented people may immigrate in a way some people do not consider to be “legal” but they themselves are not illegal therefore “illegals” is a nonsense term.
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Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants. The negative connotation is yours.
They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.
They are illegal immigrants or illegal for short per the definition you were given but appear unable to comprehend.
But they aren’t illegal_s_ as that renders the phrase a reference to the people themselves and not their actions.
To refer to people as illegal is dehumanizing.
They are in fact illegal.
Humans can’t be illegal.
Only actions humans take can be illegal.
Its a little rude but these are illegal immigrants we’re talking about. They dont deserve a lot of respect.
You don’t think all humans are worthy of dignity and respect?
Some would consider that terrible of you.
Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?
What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous “the left” did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
I don’t believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.
I can. If you’re not a US citizen then Trump policies on immigration didn’t impact you in a negative way.
I never said you. Keep up. I said the left. I remember watching the horrible comments they make as people die.
So generally speaking the left doesn’t agree with you and illegal is shorthand for illegal immigrant or criminal in most cases.
You don’t think things US presidents do can effect other nations? Further you didn’t state “immigration policies” when you said
I would argue trump has done me more personal harm by ruining my enjoyment of Home Alone 2 than any undocumented immigrant has done me by being undocumented.
Ah, but you VERY MUCH did say “you”. 👇
Emphasis mine.
That doesn’t even address what “the left” ostensibly doing something has to do with what standards someone who seemingly does not hold themself to be a member of that group should hold themself.