In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”
If you feel you have to exclude certain types of people because you think they might demonstrate too much empathy or compassion, then the system obviously needs more empathy and compassion.
When an individual prosecutor shits all over the Constitution’s guarantees of equality before the law, and they take efforts to conceal those actions, that is a knowingly bad act and an individual who deserves some accountability
When those actions stay covered up for over three decades because nobody in the system bothered to get a second plants at any of this, that’s a system that deserves some accountability
e; like, I personally am a big proponent of needing more empathy and compassion within our system, thought for the type of person who that argument doesn’t connect with, I think there’s a very strong “We fought a civil war and certified a constitutional amendment to deal with crap like this, don’t reopen this Pandora’s box” argument to be made
The apparent attempts to exclude Black and Jewish people from juries in homicide cases may have been based upon the belief that these groups would be less likely to convict someone if a death sentence was possible.
It’s almost as if you’re not part of cisgendered, white, Christian, male, heteronormative subsection of society, you see how inherently unjust our so-called justice system is, isn’t it?
Stop leaving out white women. They’re the least likely to be convicted and even when they are they receive the least amount of time when sentenced. They benefit just as much as white men if not more and have been active participants of the injustices of the court system for centuries. You should try asking Emmett Till about his experience with white women and the justice system.
Racial bias in jury selection is a bigger problem, but gender bias is still a problem.
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2023/07/analysis-court-transcripts-reveals-biased-jury-selection
Also, women were not made eligible to serve on juries in Mississippi until after Till was murdered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_United_States_juries#Timeline
I was referring more to the fact that a white woman was directly responsible for his murder and used a biased court system to avoid punishment
Racial bias in jury selection is a bigger problem, but gender bias is still a problem.
Which is why I think it’s disingenuous to exclude white women from your point as they are more likely to be selected for jury duty than anyone else besides a white male
Which… still makes it a jury bias problem?
I’m not sure why you think ‘less discrimination than other groups are discriminated against’ is acceptable when it comes to jury selection.
I’m not only telling about jury bias. I’m talking about the justice system as a whole.
I’m not sure why you think ‘less discrimination than other groups are discriminated against’ is acceptable when it comes to jury selection
Because in cases with all white juries (even those with white women) they’re still more likely to convict a black defendant.
So while being discriminated themselves they contribute to the overall bigger problem of racial discrimination. You don’t get a pass when you’re an active participant in making things worse regardless of whatever discrimination you face.
I’m not only telling about jury bias. I’m talking about the justice system as a whole.
Okay, but this is about jury bias, as have my posts been, so if you wanted to change the subject, you should have said so.
Because in cases with all white juries (even those with white women) they’re still more likely to convict a black defendant.
That still doesn’t mean that a bias against women, even if they are white, is not a problem. And no one was arguing in favor of all-white juries, so I’m not sure why you’re even bringing that up.
Because your original comment placed the blame solely on straight white even though white women are a major part of jury bias towards minorities
have been active participants of the injustices of the court system for centuries
This much is true and it is important to talk about to keep is from repeating history’s mistakes
They benefit just as much as white men if not more
There are countless instances of sexual assault and domestic violence that cops and prosecutors have swept under rugs for decades that argue against that really strongly imo. Being victims of oppression doesn’t excuse participating and upholding oppressive systems, but if we’re going to tell the whole story let’s tell the whole story.
Agreed
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