Also, 1990 was like 5 years ago. Wasn’t it? chomsky-yes-honey

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    “Homosexuality, just like heterosexuality, represents a variant of sexual behavior. Homosexual people do therefore not stand outside socialist society, and the civil rights are warranted to them exactly as to all other citizens.” ― Supreme Court of East Germany, 1987

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      I feel like such a chud. Like every one else at the time, we celebrated unification and the Berlin wall coming down.

      Looking back, I realize we were fed a constant stream of anti-communist propaganda. It was everywhere. TV, movies, video games, comics, news, etc.

      If I’d known an inkling of the truth, I would have thought much differently.

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        my parents were born in the 1950s in hungary and somehow managed to grow up on anticommunist propaganda. i dont even.

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            okay, come to think of it, it’s not that hard to explain. my dad was raised partly by his granddad who was a minor noble with some considerable land before communism. my mom’s parents were communists before the war, but they were sidelined by the kadar govt for being too high up in the rakosi govt.

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    I need Hexbears who understand Germany to explain this to me:

    How could such a progressive society (East Germany) turn into such a reactionary hellhole who support fascism (AfD has very strong support from former GDR regions) in such a short period of time? It’s not like they were different generations of people, it’s the same people who live through both times.

    How could this be? How can market liberalization turn someone homophobic and transphobic and racist? Explain this to me!

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      Lotta people died and much of GDR was essentially resettled by Nazis from West Germany. The east German children raised there in the years since did so in extreme poverty (for like first 10 or 20 years), all the while bombarded with anti-communist propaganda. Very much recommend checking out some of Ghodsee’s work like Red Hangover.

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          Welcome! The Revolutionary Left Radio episodes she did were quite good as well.

          https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/size/5/?search=ghodsee

          I believe it was the Red Hangover episode where she goes into Germany. It was very fucked up. West Germany basically forced like a kind of reparations on the people of East Germany; stole their land, dismantled their public services and industries. She mentions a World Bank study where they measured the heights of East Germans that grew up during the years following reunification and found they were inches shorter than normal, exhibiting the type of pediatric malnutrition you would expect from someone in a famine or something.

          Edit: Keep in mind she can be kind of lib and she’s a huge fan of Alexandra Kollontai(who is cool), who was often at odds with Stalin. So she is very much not a fan of him.