Also known as “a cycle of violence”. Or " hurt people, hurt people"
But at what stage is it someone’s responsibility to break this most vicious of cycles?
Jews faired quite well under most Muslim governments in the Middle East, North Africa and during the Mauritanian rule in Spain. Meanwhile the Christians loved to slaughter them.
I was referring to their power base. If there was no cultural pain there, there would be nothing to exploit to remain in power so that they an perpetrate this atrocity.
I’m not sure that’s accurate, otherwise we wouldn’t be where we are today. I’m sure there’s plenty of hate brewed up in them, and hate is a lot like swallowing poison and expecting another person to die.
I’m not trying to justify anything, I’m merely pointing out that hate doesn’t just spring from nowhere. You have to suffer to hate, even if that suffering is marginal compared to others.
That said no you don’t need to suffer to know hate honestly it is easier to hate without suffering, those who suffer have empathy. Kindest people you’ll meet will have difficult lives. The losers, dregs, outcasts and hurt ones. Most assholes I know are privileged and comfortable.
Israel has been quiet comfortable and very privileged.
I mean, technically, there are non-Jewish Israelis, but we all know they aren’t in the driver’s seat of anything. There’s definitely non-Israeli Jews, like me, and it’s super shitty they’re making me feel bad about it.
No, that’s not my point. You’re saying “The abused have become abusers”, and while yes, israelis are Jews, abused who became abusers, Jews as a whole aren’t represented by israel, so not all the abused became the abusers.
So my point is that you can’s say “the abused became the abusers”, only some of the abused became so, who are people with a common identity which is distinct to being Jew, and that identity is zionists.
Zionists are abused who have become abusers, Jews as a whole have not.
For reference, “⊂” means proper subset. That is, a subset which is smaller to some non-zero degree than the whole set. It sounds like we don’t disagree. Again, I’m in the picture here, if only by blood.
The abused have become abusers.
Also known as “a cycle of violence”. Or " hurt people, hurt people" But at what stage is it someone’s responsibility to break this most vicious of cycles?
Tbf none of these mfers are hurt. They’re just in power. Historically those in power abuse those who have no power
Jews faired quite well under most Muslim governments in the Middle East, North Africa and during the Mauritanian rule in Spain. Meanwhile the Christians loved to slaughter them.
I was referring to their power base. If there was no cultural pain there, there would be nothing to exploit to remain in power so that they an perpetrate this atrocity.
I’m not sure that’s accurate, otherwise we wouldn’t be where we are today. I’m sure there’s plenty of hate brewed up in them, and hate is a lot like swallowing poison and expecting another person to die.
I’m not trying to justify anything, I’m merely pointing out that hate doesn’t just spring from nowhere. You have to suffer to hate, even if that suffering is marginal compared to others.
I think all beings suffer technically.
That said no you don’t need to suffer to know hate honestly it is easier to hate without suffering, those who suffer have empathy. Kindest people you’ll meet will have difficult lives. The losers, dregs, outcasts and hurt ones. Most assholes I know are privileged and comfortable.
Israel has been quiet comfortable and very privileged.
Its their responsibility at every stage or it never stops.
Yup. And if they don’t, it’s everyone else’s responsibility to get in the way. We’re sending the white side weapons, instead.
No
Stop playing into Israel’s game of equating Jews to Israelis.
Israelis ⊂ Jews
I mean, technically, there are non-Jewish Israelis, but we all know they aren’t in the driver’s seat of anything. There’s definitely non-Israeli Jews, like me, and it’s super shitty they’re making me feel bad about it.
No, that’s not my point. You’re saying “The abused have become abusers”, and while yes, israelis are Jews, abused who became abusers, Jews as a whole aren’t represented by israel, so not all the abused became the abusers.
So my point is that you can’s say “the abused became the abusers”, only some of the abused became so, who are people with a common identity which is distinct to being Jew, and that identity is zionists.
Zionists are abused who have become abusers, Jews as a whole have not.
For reference, “⊂” means proper subset. That is, a subset which is smaller to some non-zero degree than the whole set. It sounds like we don’t disagree. Again, I’m in the picture here, if only by blood.
So in your opinion, all the bad things are done by Jews and non-Jewish Israelis haven’t done anything bad?
I have no idea what they do. Why would I? They’re insignificant. The Arab parties, for example, are pretty much a footnote in Israeli politics.