• BombOmOm@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Twaz the way it was always going to go. There is very specific wording for what is a machine gun, and a bump stock did not meet it.

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      6 months ago

      Yup. From a legal standpoint this was the right decision. Too bad the SC isn’t always so punctilious in its rulings.

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      6 months ago

      You can chime in on technicalities with the next Las Vegas shooting.

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        6 months ago

        Sorry, I don’t endorse opinions like yours who advocate for a rogue Supreme Court that disregards the law and does what it wants. Change the law if you want to ban bump stocks.

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          6 months ago

          They literally ruled in one case this term with a fake situation that never happened ( 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis) and then lied about the background facts in another (Kennedy v Bremerton), both in favor of “injured” Christians.

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            6 months ago

            OK, so you want more of the same just because this particular case aligns with your preferences? How about demanding a SC that narrowly does its job without acting like they it gets to decide what the law is?

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      6 months ago

      Bullshit. Your finger doesn’t move after the first pull. That makes it automatic by the legal definition. This is a bad ruling by “judges” who don’t deserve the honor of the name.

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        6 months ago

        That’s not how it works. The trigger still resets after each shot with a bump stock, even if your finger doesn’t move. The entire gun does, which allows the reset. While bump stocks make rapid fire easier, it still takes a bit of practice to get it to work. Still, by definition, it’s not an automatic weapon.

        While everyone here is allowed their own opinions on gun control, defining how a weapon works in a legal context is extremely important. The terminology needs to be very exact and definitions need to be consistent. The reason for this is because everyone has their own opinions and points of view. Those opinions need to be normalized somehow.

        This comment is just about how the legal system works in general.

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          6 months ago

          Pretty sure you can bump fire even without a bump stock. Wasn’t there a “belt loop” trick even before bumpstocks were ever made?

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            6 months ago

            Absolutely, you just hook your thumb. I’ve done it with an AR-15. It wouldn’t be useful for hitting anything, just wastes money quicker.

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              6 months ago

              Yep. My brother had an AK with a super light trigger that I could bump fire, but it wasn’t easy and still was a complete waste.

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                6 months ago

                But with a bump stock, you can aim fairly easily and kill 61 people!

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                  6 months ago

                  I think you missed the point of the thread in your excitement. We are saying a bump stock is not even a requirement.

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                    6 months ago

                    And you missed the point that the other methods have you spraying all over the place and then some.