Slog fractals that take faaar to fucking long:

  • Siren’s Reef (everything)
  • Molten Furnace (boss especially is a time waster)
  • Deepstone (that stupid riddle room serves 0 purpose whatsoever but to waste time)
  • Twilight Oasis (everything)
  • Shattered Observatiry (everything)
  • Sunqua Peak (fuck this shit)
  • Silent Surf (hey this fractal is super short but the boss takes 20 minutes because fuck you gargle our arse)

Fractals that are fine to good:

  • Aquatic Ruins (two “pre-rooms”, easy and quick boss, my favourite)
  • Swampland (boss is a drag, but not half as bad as others)
  • Uncategorized (two JPs and two pre-rooms, quick and easy)
  • Solid Ocean (boss is a drag but at least you can have a wank on the side)
  • Underground Facility (quick enough if people don’t suck so borderline bad)
  • Urban Battleground (kill a boss, rush through everything)
  • Snowblind (start is a drag but then you can just rush it, boss doesn’t drag it out too much)
  • Chaos (I love zero waiting rooms to bore you to death)
  • Molten Boss (so rushable I love it)
  • Volcanic (start is slow but the rest is quick, so it’s enjoyable)
  • Cliffside (so rushable, Mesmer Masterrace Portal Bitch)
  • Captain Mai Trin (what Silent Turf tried to be)
  • Aetherblade (so rushable, teleport through everything, do the puzzle and you’re already next to the boss)
  • Nightmare (good balance between waiting rooms and bosses)

2/3 shit Fractals and the ratio becomes worse with every new one. AMA.

  • OdinMinusNull@feddit.de
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    Players: we want content

    Anet: OK here, finally made some

    Players: ew I need to invest time for rewards

    Imo silent surf is good. The boss lives for a considerable amount of time with enough repetition of mechanics that you can’t just brute force through. Bit on the longer side, sure, wouldn’t hurt if it was a little less tanky. If your number one quality of a fractal is how ‘rushable’ it is… Idk lmao. I guess I don’t farm them past dailies, I never had an issue. Twilight really isn’t long pre boss if you run correctly. Shattered’s sequence between Skorvald and Aartsariv takes maybe 2 minutes out of your day and the rest is just good bosses.

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      Person: I’m hungry.

      Cook: Here, eat shit.

      Reducing things to a black-and-white level of complexity makes it easy to bash them, right? Idk lmao.

      On a more serious note, too much of fractals and content in general is bloated with filler. Molten Furnace was fun until Anet decied that the endboss had to hide every 10 seconds and be invulnerable during the 50.000 animations. Why? What value does that add? Deepstone boss teleports as well, but he stays vulnerable and you have addtional light mechanics like floor restoration or CC/floor destruction. Molten Furnace is “walk 50 units that direction, attack 7 seconds, wait another 15 seconds”. That’s a time waster.

      Same with the Deepstone “maze” room. A tenth of it would also have explained the mechanic. It does nothing but waste time.

      Sunqua is a Walking Simulator with 20 hours of talk. What the actual fuck were they thinking? Cut out 90% of the distance and 100% of the talk and we’re starting to get somewhere.

      Rushability (totally a word) is where it boils down if you do the same thing 25.000 times. No, it’s not fun standing there staring at the NPC waiting to be let through. No, it’s not fun standing there staring at the wall, or have a boss transist through 17 phases, all with a 25 second invuln animation. Fraenir has up to 30 seconds and it bores me out of my fucking mind. Someone should take away invulnerability from ArenaNet and see if they can create an encounter without that crutch. For fuck’s sake.

      Here is the pattern: every Fractal has to take 20 minutes, being fast isn’t allowed. No, it’s not every Fractal, but next to all updates have lengthened the updated Fractal and made it more tedioues. That’s what makes Silent Surf so hilarious to me. Fucking hell, the Fractal was amazing at first glance. Fly around like bloody Spider-Man! And then: WHAM! 20 min boss wall to the face, because we can’t have shit that’s quick and enjoyable.

      Let people have their popcorn content for God’s sake, why does everything has to be artificial pumped up to 20 minutes. And in the laziest way possible!

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        why does everything has to be artificial pumped up to 20 minutes

        Because the gold / hour cannot be too high compared to other content. The problem is that the time is wasted on fillers instead of actual content, like another boss or some difficult trash packs maybe.

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        Sunqua is a Walking Simulator with 20 hours of talk. What the actual fuck were they thinking? Cut out 90% of the distance and 100% of the talk and we’re starting to get somewhere.

        Sunqua normal mode is a tutorial for the CM, which does cut out all the walking and talking.

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      You don’t need a guild for that. At least when we talking tier 1 and 2. Just take a look in LFG or start your own party with “T1 dailies” and your party will fill up fast.

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          Totally! Tier 1 fractals is very easy and don’t be afraid to ask your party for help. Just let them know you are new.

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            Exactlly! I was pretty surprised how noob-friendly those lower tiers are and that people are actually willing to explain things.

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    I don’t think it’s that bad, not a fan of sirens reef and oasis but otherwise fine. But i don’t play those daily, so maybe haven’t yet played often enough :) Though, how can anyone in their right mind like aquatic is beyond me :D (no offense, everyone their own)

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      Aquatic is different AND doesn’t waste my time. Absolute favourite. :D There are at least dozens of us!

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    Silent surf really is a drag, but I like many fractals of the ones you listed. I like the riddle room in deepstone, I like twilight oasis because it takes some time but is still fast paced, I don’t see where shattered observatory takes long (just do cm lol).

    On the other hand I dislike Cliffside. The hammer mechanic is kind of a nice mechanic, but so finicky to get right and I think it should be displayed more clearly.

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      Liking the riddle room should be illegal.

      Shattered, I imagine, is fast with a competent group. But watching people not using their skill to go directly to the last island or failing the bouncy ball to open the rift…ugh. Pugging is an adventure in itself I suppose, heh.

      But fascinating to see people’s preferences. Cliffside being a drag because people fail the hammer mechanic is something I usually only see in sub4 tiers.

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    Only problem I have is the boss has too much hp. But to reduce the health, the CC would have to be reduced to like every 20%, instead of 10%. Otherwise skills wouldn’t be ready otherwise.

    The jumping at the start is fast once you know what to use where.

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      I really enjoy the jumping, yeah. Especially once you discover the bomb-jump, you can really shorten it all. It’s a fantastic design, everyone has a slightly different way of proceeding.

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        Exactly. For example I’ve never used the 3rd skill and got to the end just fine. There’s a lot of ways to do it like you said.

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    Honestly it’s not too bad I would take it over Mai Trin. Just give it some time for people to get better with jumping & mechanics.