• revelrous@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    I’d still argue the example of the slave state Missouri organizing raids on kansas speaks more about the issue of slavery than states rights. It was the opening bid to the civil war and it was individuals acting on moral convictions/racial hate fueling it. John Brown is such a mood.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      the slave state Missouri

      I’d agree with you there, but

      it was individuals acting on moral convictions/racial hate fueling it.

      You just said it was individuals.

      They should get the credit for outlawing slavery. Not the people who were 100% fine to let it continue like Lincoln.

      People just don’t like it when there’s no “good guys”.

      • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Sorry, this is what I get for trying to respond while hiding my phone at work. I guess I’m not making a delineation between the conflict and the ‘legal’ framework for the war. Yes Lincoln was a bit of a shit but he had abolitionists prodding him the entire time. (Ever read ‘The Zealot and the Emancipator’? You might like it—really calls out Lincoln’s positions and gives color to our boy Brown.)