• APassenger@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    That’s not my point. I am saying to a large degree science has shown that implicit bias is real. That unconscious biases show up among all groups, especially if given the right priming.

    And based on that, we all have times it shows up. Whether we know it or not. Whether we like it or not.

    This is not to drain the conversation of its relevance. It only enhances the urgency and importance of the conversations.

    But I’m not into this either/or because this is a gradient. Or if it’s either/or then it’s 99+% of the population failing the test. If that’s the line, there’s an honesty to it.

    And implicit bias, at its core, is based on belief. Even if transitory.

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      3 months ago

      if it’s either/or then it’s 99+% of the population failing the test. If that’s the line, there’s an honesty to it.

      I wouldn’t go as far as 99+ but yes, many people have beliefs that put them in that boat. I wasn’t even excluding you or I.

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        3 months ago

        Then I think we’re fairly aligned and I respect your honesty.

        No dispute on whether I’ll be ferreting out biases for the rest of my life. I just consider it mental hygiene.

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          3 months ago

          Yeah also I grew up in a world that was much more openly racist than the one of today so I’ll catch myself having stereotyping intrusive thoughts about dumb stuff people will do and I’ll be like, “no x type of person isn’t the only type that cuts you off in traffic, dumbass”. I don’t think that’s a belief though.

          Just like I don’t think that having intrusive thoughts about jumping off a ledge means your suicidal.