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  • MentalDV8@alien.topBtoHomelab@selfhosted.forumMy 10 inch PiLab
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    10 months ago

    A dashboard as in a browser based, I can click on a pretty icon and it brings up the web page for that service? I’m going to jump and say Dashy. Once you figure out that you pretty much have to configure everything with JSON, it becomes pretty easy.

    I really like what you’ve done here I think you’ve done a great job one thing I have a question of is what operating system do you run directly on the Pi?


  • So you’ve gotten a lot of comments here and they’re very good. They certainly give you options. Now I’m going to probably go the other way because running network attached storage from Windows has never been a great solution over the years in my experience. And I’ll also temper this with if you want the chance with this new server to learn and use other platforms you certainly have the ability with that processor.

    So my normal suggestion, is to load Proxmox as a hypervisor. This allows you to run LXC containers directly and virtual machines. I would run TrueNAS Scale in a VM and give it direct access to the two 10TB volumes it needs to create your RAID1 NAS in ZFS. I might tend to put a second 256GB NVMe drive to run my VMs on. The nice thing with your setup here is you’d still have two SATA ports available for more drives in the future. The bad thing of course is if you create a RAID1 array now with two drives you’re not going to be able to expand it in the future as anything but a RAID1 array. Which won’t be what you want. Maybe food for thought.

    This setup gives you the ability to learn Proxmox and to learn TrueNAS in baby steps. One thing that intrigued me about this system is that you could put four more NVMe drives and run them as a ZFS RAID5 or 6. That is a pretty sweet motherboard! Especially for being so small.

    You’ve got both 10 Gbps and 20 Gbps USB channels so you could use that for an external drive for your backup. As it was already mentioned, RAID is not a backup ™ and you’ll probably want to back up your important data so you don’t have to number one lose it or number two reload it all from the internet.

    With a setup I’ve mentioned you can easily run multiple VMs so you could run let’s say a Debian 12 VM and have it run Docker containers and there you have your Plex and or Jellyfin and dozens of other Dockers and you’re all happy. And yes, with Proxmox you could run those same containers as LXC. For a long time I guess I didn’t realize or understand about lxc containers and so I ignored them and through the growth of proxmox in my basement-- yes it’s like a plague I’ve got 14 systems running it now–I really do like LXC. While I really like TrueNAS Scale and have four instances of it running, I do not like running containers on it because I see it as a NAS operating system and not great at running containers. That’s completely my prejudice.

    I’m sure we’ll have other people chiming in about using unRAID, Open Media Vault, and things like that but while they’re certainly options, I have always found TrueNAS to be a better NAS.


  • So if we really want to keep this simple:

    Windows w/Python installed: py -m http.server

    Linux/BSD/MacOS/Unix: python3 -m http.server

    And if you’re dealing with Windows, you can install python many ways so it’s really not that difficult anymore.

    Now mind you this covers downloading from a computer meaning another client computer let’s say it’s a laptop from your Windows/Linux desktop or server.

    To upload files however, we have to get a little bit more creative. Let’s say that you have Windows as your operating system or that you know how to use WINE on Linux.

    This program is a Windows executable that as one simple download file gives you a full web server with upload and download meaning it will accept the post request correctly and let you transfer files. Give it a shot.

    HFS (HTTP File Server) https://www.rejetto.com/hfs/?f=intro


  • I’ve got three of the r730xd’s right now. I love the machines and I love the power that they have. I’ve got 22 core processors in them all. I run xcp-ng on them but you can run proxmox on them and you can run vmware. I believe and there are other experts that will tell you on here that VMware 7 will run just fine but VMware 8 might not on the 2600. I had VMware on one of them in the past and that’s gone away for me.

    If your power bill is of interest to you, then it might not be the server for you because if you put capacity on there it’s going to draw quite a bit of watts. I’m assuming you’re going to run it 24/7 like I do. After all you want it up and running so it’s available right?

    They can be a little loud, but once you get it patched well for updated firmware on all the BIOS and idrac and the LSI controller, the fans are able to ramp down. If that whole power thing is of a concern you can always remove one of the processors and put a blank immediately in place on top of the pin so you won’t bend the pins and save the processor in the power supply for future. You could then move all the ram which would be an additional 64 GB to processor one and you’d be all set and you’d be using the last power and generate less heat.

    I prefer the V4 chips in both dells and an hp’s because the memory can run faster. However if you don’t want to spend money on V4 chips there’s no reason to necessarily spend money on them as the V3 chips run just fine and the two you have in there are fine (I have four HP 360 gen 9s with the V4 version of that chip with 14 cores).

    I’m not sure what the front storage looks like on that if you got it with 16 or 24 bays but if you receive SAS drives assuming they’re Enterprise SAS drives and they weren’t certified then they’re probably going to die fairly soon. You have to assume it at least right? You can totally put in off the shelf SATA home user SSDs or Enterprise SAS SSDs.

    You can add dual 10 Gbps or 40Gbps net working pretty cheap with a integration module that’s available on eBay. I have an iSCSI host which services up VM containers to my computer servers. That way all the containers live on shared backup storage that is well it has a pretty good up time 99.9999 all that jazz. You can always bump the power supply up if you need to again on eBay. I’m going to maybe guess that you got the kit on the back of the system that let you put two drives on the far right rear of the system you can put your boot drives there so you don’t use the front drives for booty. VMware can technically boot from a SATA Dom or a USB. 28 cores or actually even the 14 cores will run a full Red Forest just fine. And give you plenty of Linux VMs and you could run a Mac OS on there too if you want.

    I gave you all this information because there are a lot of pluses with the system you’re looking at the price is certainly reasonable that’s what I’m paying in America for them at a reseller. However there are a lot of deficits a couple of the people have already pointed out in this thread I would certainly say that a 12th generation i7 or i9 from Intel or any of the Verizon 3900s or 3950s or 5900 or 5950s in a desktop PC would probably do the same. Those are a course available every day used at pretty decent prices I don’t believe you’re going to match that server in price but you’re also going to use less power which may or may not be a factor to you it’s not to me, and you’re going to generate less heat and less noise. Again not a factor to me but I think it’s worth mentioning if you’re diving into this. I’ve never had one of my systems go bad out of the r730s. I’ve had two running since 20/20 and I got one of them just recently to add for a menage a trois of TrueNAS servers.

    On eBay you’re going to want to befriend the channel Cloud Ninjas. They have a complete playlist on the r730 servers they tell you what processors, memory, and networking you can add. I think they even cover the LSI controllers very well presented very clear and concise. Obviously they want to sell hardware but they do a big service to the community by providing free videos actually showing you how to do things.

    If you decide to buy that and keep it and you want to run TrueNAS on there and pass through the LSI controller you’ll need it in IT mode. The YouTube channel, The Art of Server, covers how to flash the PERC controllers for it mode. Or you can always put in another LSI controller that’s already flashed in it mode and you’re all set.

    That’s all I got off the top of my head.