For reference, a GB300 server is now at about 8.5kw for a single server. A fully populated NVL8 server is about 15kw. Looking online, looks like the ISS is about up to 90kw, so I guess I’m off and the actual number is something like 6 to 10 of these servers per ISS scale facility.

I would still argue this is a crazy overhead for what they would now consider meager capacity, with, luckily for nVidia, a pretty hard deadline where the very expensive equipment burns up without potential for extended lifetime use.

The solution to tackling it was to just not tackle it. See the various dangling cables where something was no longer needed and rather than removing the cable, screw it, it is lost to the entropy.

Funny of you to invoke the Luddites. Have you ever actually read about the Luddites beyond the pop-culture use of them as dismissive of people reluctant about technology? They were far from irrationally hate-filled.

They objected to the mass unemployment, child labor, and pathetic wages of the time. Living conditions for working class had broadly worsened. Significantly facilitated by technology that facilitated the owners inflicting those conditions. The technology had undermined the leverage of the working class. Rather than the technology making it better for all, it was a way to concentrate wealth into a smaller few and harm the welfare of others. So in early days, they would damage the instruments of the industrial exploitation. The government response was to make such damage to property even without any personal injury punishable by death, and started killing people of the movement before the movement escalated to any violence on people, protecting the wealthy at the expense of the working class.

Anyway, folks have similarly offered a great deal of legitimate grievances on the realities of AI usage, it also is far from irrational. For the folks referenced in this article, it’s how the technology in practice has harmed art, and it’s hard to disagree with that sentiment as we get bombarded by waves of slop that superficially resembles content, but is ultimately devoid of substance. Also, again we are seeing ambitions of even further concentrating wealth without real plans to have anyone share in hypothetical boons.

That took me a second there…

Why did we ever make I and l look the same…

Of course, not all people who are anti-AI are necessarily folks I will agree with on other things, even assholes get it right on occasion. But it certainly has been the case that the non-assholes have been very consistently like Weird Al here…

Man that madthumbs guy is really trying to make that a thing and it’s kind of sad and lonely that he’s off by himself pretending he has a community…

It’s remarkable how pretty much every last person that I had respect for before the AI craze have been against or at least wary of it, with none of them going all-in on the concept.

Meanwhile, both personally and internet-wide, every single person that I already was familiary with who has come out unambiguously simping for AI has been someone I already thought was just insufferable.

Oh, we are sharing workplace cable management, ok, here’s a place I used to work at:

My favorite one was Musk gave.

So he said that the supply of a particular natural gas turbine part was constrained through 2030. Therefore, obviously, the simplest fix is to have thousands of starship launches with ISS-sized payloads and all the attendant crap.

Don’t know why that had to be a picture, but yes, and almost every state’s declaration had the same point in it, usually the first paragraph.

But no, my school didn’t teach that. They only acknowledged that the north had not yet absolutely banned slavery everywhere and the states seceeded before they even tried to come down hard on the insitution. They desperately want to erase the fact that the south very much had the moral low ground.

Yeah my rural southern school drilled the “it wasn’t slavery” over and over.

They conveniently omitted pretty much every article of secession that cited slavery. Instead just focused on how late the emancipation was and how it avoided emancipating slaves in Union states.

So maybe the North wasnt sufficiently abolitionist, but the South sure as hell thought they were.

For scale. roughly a two server datacenter needs to have solar and radiator about as big as the ISS.

Which is possible, but insane. However insane plain old datacenter is, just tons more insane.

Basically people see an address like fdec:46f7:9b7f:1::3:20 and run screaming away about the complexity, seeing the address as a comprehensive indication of complexity, even though the real challenges lie underneath.

The whole ‘traditional ipv4 just has 0.0.0.0’ stuck in front of it is essentially exactly the same idea as, say 64:ff9b::142.251.152.119. Now there’s also the likes of ffff::142.251.152.119 but that’s just so software can pretend to speak IPv6 when the OS is really doing only IPv4. So they needed another prefix to indicate the network doing the v6 to v4 translation instead of the OS.

Anyway, the thing is that while it cosmetically looks more similar, it’s not really solving the fundamental compatibility situation. It just “looks nicer” because it sticks to dotted decimals. However in practice, would fdec:46f7:9b7f:1::3:20 really be somehow less usable than, say, 120.30.204.78.167.144.120.209? The simple reality is that the 4 octet decimal pushed human usability enough as it was, and going to sufficient octets just brings it out of mere mortal reach. If you did want to say have more friendly local network addresses (the vast vast majority of human memorized IP addresses), then technically you could have fd::1, fd::2, fd::3, and those would all work and be super easy to remember (the ULA RFC says you are supposed to toss in 40 bits of random for good reason, but if you were using 10.0.0.1 style addresses, you would be no worse off with fd::1, fd::2, etc). You can even trivially have them live alongside ‘real’ global IP addresses, but ignore them whenever you want to just hand type a local IP address. You can even have something like a hex DNS. fd::f00d, fd::beef, fd::d00d, and so many more for your pleasure.

There’s more features in IPv6 but you can ignore them since they are mostly for the machines to wrangle (the fe80:: addresses for example).

Note while you have cosmetic similarities to ipv4 addresses, the actual challenging part of that is the packet format and various translations.

We actually have a number of existing schemes for ipv4 mapping onto larger address space and the attendant NAT requirements. The presentation of addresses in an ipv4 looking way is the least of the challenges.

So don’t take IPv8 seriously, it is slop and even in theory it wouldn’t add anything new except a different cosmetic look to raw addresses and shortening the address space for no good reason.

Don’t think you grasp which side has the actual leverage here…

The US market is the one that has driven the truckloads of money that have resulted in the memory vendor stock increasing over 10-fold.

Even a pretty severe compromise or fine is totally worth it to keep the money hose going.

Working from memory here

Nowadays that’s a pretty expensive way to work

Feel like you are trying to misunderstand for the sake of being outraged.

I was implying that the situation was more ‘nuanced’ and ‘complicated’ at the time of the October 7th attack, that the attack was horrible but it was a bit more complicated due to enduring misbehavior by Israel in Gaza and the West bank, both sides doing bad things. It has become less complicated because it has become absurdly one-sided atrocities by Israel in the recent years.

Yes, it would be good to see some folks come back and update their perspective given more information, but I’m still not going to advocate for crucifying someone solely for tacking their name on a letter of solidarity with Israel in the immediate wake of the October 7th attack.

I said the situation was (past tense) “more complicated” compared to the then commonly held view that Hamas was just being evil and terroristic on October 7th. I was agreeing that the view was oblivious.

I was not saying you were wrong, I was saying that even as you point out everyone in the damn world should know better, you didn’t point out the things they would have needed to know. That if it is that difficult for you to highlight the things he should have known, how can we expect him to know about them at a time when people had not been talking about it except for the very recent and very violent October 7th event.

What came before was bad, but nothing like what happened since and nowhere near as popularly known.

My point is simply that folks that showed support for Israel in the popular media in October and November of 2023 can be given a break. They weren’t necessarily pro genocide, just oblivious to the nuanced circumstances and focused on the most recent and severe single act, which was committed by Hamas. After the IDF went as far as they did, that obliviousness no longer is understandable.

Well then you can change the sound of the car. You might have to bypass or add your own equipment, but you can do it.

Doesn’t mean the manufacturer should reasonably be expected to make it even easier.

I can remove the exhaust (on an old car) and drive without it. It’s not efficient and not legal but I can do it.

Then you “can’t” do it by the same logic. Because it’s not legal.