But there’s not many current users over there to answer them. If you still have a reddit account and are willing to help some folks out, please consider doing so!
But there’s not many current users over there to answer them. If you still have a reddit account and are willing to help some folks out, please consider doing so!
“I’m very tech-savvy, but I don’t understand how the Fediverse work” - Then continues to write FUD… I’m so tired lol
Wow, that’s a dumb argument. I don’t have the slightest clue how it works, but I’m here!
IKR.
Call me a gatekeeper but it’s not secret arcane knowledge for a privileged few.
You just sign up the same way you’ve done anything ever.
If Pixelfed can reach 186k monthly active users in a week thanks to IG users, than I’m really not sure how tech savvy that person is indeed
A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.
Is it though? No one waited around and avoided email because they weren’t sure which provider to use. Just make an account and go… if you hear or see other features that you want, then move.
Idk I think the sign up phase could be simpler. A default instance and clear short documentation upon sign up would help. I say this not for me (nerd for 30 years) but just got my partner to switch and they were resistent due to the account creation process. Maybe it’s just the extra dimensions of “picking an instance” but it is a thing and a blocker for engagement.
Yes, I recently created a Pixelfed account and I definitely balked at the “pick and instance” step. When I joined lemmy (using connect) it didn’t ask me to pick an instance to create an account with and eased me into the idea of the fediverse. As a reddit refugee that only left because of morals, I absolutely felt like a fish out of water but I persisted. Others don’t wish to persist with something confusing or different. One one hand, that’s fine with me, I don’t want to share a platform with people like that anyway. On the other hand, if it’s not at least a little popular and easy to swallow for new users, growth will be impacted.
Some instances filter which content comes through, which might concern some people. And email services offer different features these days, so people might assume the same of fediverse instances as long as we’re drawing that comparison.
No, but a ton of people got AOL and Prodigy email addresses at first because they got an email address with their account.
It is the “problem” of how accessible everything is. I know plenty of genuinely amazing coders who have no idea how an operating system (let alone the hardware it runs on) works because they don’t need to know. EVERYONE has stories of people who don’t understand directory structures because they grew up on google drive.
And it REALLY does not help that the average fediverse evangelist can’t shut up and just give a simple answer.
In the Warframe space? What I and others have noticed works REALLY well is to tell the person trying it out “At the end of a mission you are going to get like 40 currencies. Ignore that shit, it doesn’t matter”. And in fediverse stuff? The answer is just to say “It is like having an email account at gmail or hotmail or whatever”*. It doesn’t matter. Just go to join-lemmy.org or whatever and pick one of the top servers after doing their questionnaire".
Instead we have “Well, you need to understand federation and why it is so important. Read this white paper and then come back to me and I’ll suggest a few youtube videos that explain what you are having trouble with”
*: The fact that I couldn’t think of a good email provider that normies use IS the problem.
I see that hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and Lemmy.ml are all recommendations there. So there might be a problem with that plan… They hate the West, whereas people in Reddit are FROM the West, and overall even if they join Lemmy, I cannot imagine them remaining here for very long.
I almost quit Lemmy after even just a couple of mere discussions with people on those instances - I sure as fuck would not have stuck around if my entire instance was surrounded by them!
Would YOU join Truth.Social, the Alt-Right network? Well, here at Lemmy, we are the Alt-Left one. It is zero surprise to me at all that centrists on Reddit are not desiring to come to this place that is so highly unwelcoming to
themanyone who does not use Linux btw.I get downvoted in every political discussion here. But at least nobody banned me yet. On reddit they banned me from the subreddits that are supposed to represent my views!
There should be a link, that redirects you to the registration page of a random (maybe based on geo ip) Lemmy server. Just don’t mention to the user that they have a choice of servers. Just have them register and get on. Later, while using the Fediverse, they will learn how it works and be able to understand what it means to choose a Lemmy server yourself.
Anything else is just too complicated for the average person, I think. Hell, I think domain names other than lemmy.xxx is confusing some people.
Risky click.
Edit: It’s unregistered. Which I view as a total failure of the Lemmy community.
This. Techies know custom domains are a thing. A LOT of people are going to look askance at anything that isn’t among the most common TLDs. I mean, lemmy.zip is kinda funny. But it also screams “don’t click me, zip files from an unknown source are dangerous!”
…and now I’m having intrusive thoughts about exe being a TLD. I’m-a go lay down until the voices stop.
Random servers usually give lackluster experiences: https://lemmy.world/post/24220536
Fedi observer does something like this.
Just checked about https://dormi.zone/, good to see it’s still around
Generally, I don’t believe it’s actually an issue with complication. There’s just a resistance to change. That said there’s still significant onus on those invested in the fediverse to make sure It Just Workstm
I thought it was sh.itjust.works
I miss a lot of the niche communities of reddit that still had engagement. Lemmy doesn’t have all that I used to have, but I decided to join anyway. Not everyone will do that, and like you said that makes the resistance to change even stronger.
It’s fine to use both, most people do
Yeah if you want to that’s fine. I choose not to.
You are not alone.
I mean… people who understand how the fediverse works… have already made the move.
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