A Pakistani business owner accused of trying to hire hit men to kill a U.S. politician has been convicted in a trial that showcased allegations of Iran-backed plotting on American soil.
Buddy, we’re at war. It’s just that only one side is fighting. Every homeless person dying of exposure is a murder. Every child dying in a drone strike is a murder. Every person in the Global South that dies of malnutrition and lack of healthcare is a murder.
Violence is already the answer, it’s just a matter of who’s wielding it.
Nah. Violence is not the answer or the solution. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Lemmy wants to fight, I know. But Lemmy is full of a bunch of keyboard warriors who ain’t doing shit about anything. lol
I don’t advocate violence. And I am free to my opinion that it’s never the answer. You can disagree. You are free to your opinion.
That’s fine. We don’t have to agree. But I’m not changing my mind. No matter what you say, or what you ask me. I don’t advocate violence ever. And I don’t think it’s ever the answer. You should really just accept it and move on. I’m not changing my mind.
You are free to post whatever fits your ideology. Be the change you wanna see, bro. And I’ll continue to post how I see fit. thx and have a great day.
Yeah, the Esptein class just killed hundreds of young girls in school. Are you okay with that? They rape, kill, boil, and eat young children. Are you okay with that? They have absolutely no remorse for those children, so why would they have it when it comes to your kids?
Violence might not normally be the answer, but these creatures only understand one thing and a mass violent insurrection and execution of the ruling parasite class is the only way America comes out of this still intact and with any dignity.
You might not be able to understand this, but when you’ve got a shock collar around your neck being beaten as a slave because you dropped their roast child meal, you’ll wish you stood up earlier.
Violence is never the answer. And there will be no revolution. I know you and most of Lemmy really dream of a violent overthrow of the government. You all have been saying that since Trump was elected the first time.
It’s not gonna happen though. Most people didn’t even summon the energy to leave the house and vote, yet you think there is gonna be some revolution?
Not gonna happen. You all can type manifesto’s all day. You may get 30 upvotes when you talk about it. But a violent revolution won’t happen and won’t change anything anyway. You need to accept that most people just don’t agree with you.
Lemmy is a small echo chamber that isn’t indicative of majority opinions in the real world. That’s why Lemmy was sooooo shocked that Trump won, while most people weren’t surprised.
Advocating violence isn’t the answer. Have a great day, mate!
No offence, but I can tell you’ve lived an extremely sheltered life if you’ve never had to resort to violence.
The reality is that sometimes violence comes to you, whether you like it or not, and you can’t use diplomacy to stop it.
Do you think the children in African villages can use diplomacy to stop murderous warlords who make piles of bodies on the streets? Or eat still-beating childrens’ hearts because they’re told it will give them strength?
I do one day hope for a world where diplomacy solves everything, but when people want power and control and they don’t care who they kill or maim to get it and keep it, you dont always get the choice of diplomacy, because they despise your existence. They dont value your life. You’re scum to them, and they abhor that you’re still breathing.
Yeah, America might a ways off a full-blown civil war, but its coming whether they like it or not because the alternative is a life of complete slavery and servitude, and the elites looove to use violence. It’s their main tool.
I wish I could be as ignorant of history and reality as you.
I live “an extremely sheltered life” because I don’t resort to violence?! Say wat, mate?! Do you realize that most people in the us have never been in a fight or needed to be?!
The US isn’t going to have a civil war, a revolution, and it’s not going to be toppled anytime soon. lol I know that makes Lemmy really really mad and the doomers want everything to end now. Not gonna happen. Stay mad.
Lemmy is full of extremists who want the world to end. It’s not going to, so accept it.
Feel free to be angry at the world. You do you. I’m fine and happy where I am. Today is beautiful and I’m gonna go watch the kids fly kites today. So smiles and laughing are the agenda today.
Good luck out with being mad all the time. I’m not gonna go that route.
Good point. So…MOST of lemmy is angry is more accurate.
In fact, you can see it in this very thread.
People have left lemmy because of all the negativity. Lemm.ee shut down because of the negativity and burnout that it was causing. Bruh, I’m getting downvoted because I don’t advocate violence. Does that sound welcoming and friendly to you? lololol
Heck, even lemmings.world is shutting down in July because the admin said that he was disappointed in how much Lemmy had devolved into politics, extremism, and negativity. He said he loved the idea of it, but now it’s just politics and arguing now: https://lemmings.world/post/41938713
Look around. I’m not the only one to think this. My fiance lasted one week on Lemmy before she got tired of the negativity and anger. Then she deleted her account.
But don’t worry, I’m not leaving. I’m being the change I wanna see. And I’m never going to advocate violence either.
My life is awesome and filled with love and activity. I’m not gonna join on on the doomer brigade. Hope you have a great day.
This is a news article in a news community. This isn’t a political community. Look at my posts. The vast majority of my posts are general news articles. So yes, being the change I wanna see.
Violence is very often the answer chosen by our state, whether that be ICE’s ongoing rounding up of minorities to throw them in camps, or the bombing of schools in Iran, or the funding of an ongoing genocide in Gaza. Police in the US repeatedly murder racial minorities. George Floyd, Sonia Massey, Breonna Taylor. Homeless people, the most vulnerable of us, are regularly forced to move via violence or are incarcerated. Which leaves them in a systemic loop of violence that makes it difficult to ever recover. The progress made in this country was never made without violence, the civil rights movement was filled with it.
When you claim that it’s unacceptable for regular people to ever resort to violence, you legitimise the state’s monopoly on it as a method. Very few of us, including those on lemmy, desire a civil war, and violence as a method of creating change is not without it’s merits, nor does it mean we have a civil war.
Voting can only go so far in a rigged political system, and it is important to remember that we learned how to deal with fascism during WW2.
I don’t believe in violence. And I will never advocate violence.
Lemmy is comprised mostly of keyboard warriors who don’t even leave their houses to vote, much less start a revolution. No revolution or civil war will be happening in the US. lol
I don’t necessarily desire a revolution or civil war, But if you want to make claims about the voting status of Lemmy users, you can’t just pull that one out of your ass, my dude. This platform is definitely left leaning, and it’s definitely comprised of a lot of geeks.
I would question, do you think that the Holocaust could have been stopped without the use of force?
If someone broke into your home and threatened your life, do you think that the appropriate response would be to let them do whatever they want? Most people in that situation would call the police, which is a form of violence.
What would you do if someone was about to be murdered, but you could stop them only by committing violence? What about if you were about to be murdered? Your family? Your children?
I mean, we say violence is never the answer, but most people would absolutely say violence is justified in those cases. Violence as a means to stop violence is generally seen as okay. We should never resort to violence when we do not have to, but violence is sometimes the answer.
I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about, but I don’t really think I advocated for a revolution. But if I did, please refer me to it, so I can rectify my memory problems.
I don’t want a civil war. But, I am not going to condemn violence in all forms. Sometimes, violence is the answer, even if it is the last option. That’s why we teach people (and CHILDREN) self-defense (literally a form of violence used beneficially.)
It specifically benefits anyone that is okay with the status quo to have no violence, but that isn’t really great for those which are being exploited. So, like, it is an extremely privileged take to say violence is never the answer.
You keep motte and baileying. Please point to the post where I called for assassination.
Just answer the question: Is self-defense also never the answer? Because self-defense is literally violence. Should people being beat to death not fight back? That’s also violence. You condemn them all when you say that.
Advocating violence isn’t the answer. No matter how much Lemmy loves violence.
Buddy, we’re at war. It’s just that only one side is fighting. Every homeless person dying of exposure is a murder. Every child dying in a drone strike is a murder. Every person in the Global South that dies of malnutrition and lack of healthcare is a murder.
Violence is already the answer, it’s just a matter of who’s wielding it.
Nah. Violence is not the answer or the solution. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Lemmy wants to fight, I know. But Lemmy is full of a bunch of keyboard warriors who ain’t doing shit about anything. lol
Violence is not the answer.
History disagrees with you.
I don’t care. You have your beliefs, I have mine. You can think what you want. And I can think what I want. thx and havea great day.
Keep wishing for the revolution. It ain’t coming. lmao
You can think what you want, and you are still wrong.
Historically violence has been the answer to many things.
I don’t wish for revolution, but to insist that violence is never the answer to a problem is naive.
Initiating violence I agree is morally wrong.
I don’t advocate violence. And I am free to my opinion that it’s never the answer. You can disagree. You are free to your opinion.
That’s fine. We don’t have to agree. But I’m not changing my mind. No matter what you say, or what you ask me. I don’t advocate violence ever. And I don’t think it’s ever the answer. You should really just accept it and move on. I’m not changing my mind.
You are free to post whatever fits your ideology. Be the change you wanna see, bro. And I’ll continue to post how I see fit. thx and have a great day.
Paradox of tolerance.
Yeah, the Esptein class just killed hundreds of young girls in school. Are you okay with that? They rape, kill, boil, and eat young children. Are you okay with that? They have absolutely no remorse for those children, so why would they have it when it comes to your kids?
Violence might not normally be the answer, but these creatures only understand one thing and a mass violent insurrection and execution of the ruling parasite class is the only way America comes out of this still intact and with any dignity.
You might not be able to understand this, but when you’ve got a shock collar around your neck being beaten as a slave because you dropped their roast child meal, you’ll wish you stood up earlier.
Violence is never the answer. And there will be no revolution. I know you and most of Lemmy really dream of a violent overthrow of the government. You all have been saying that since Trump was elected the first time.
It’s not gonna happen though. Most people didn’t even summon the energy to leave the house and vote, yet you think there is gonna be some revolution?
Not gonna happen. You all can type manifesto’s all day. You may get 30 upvotes when you talk about it. But a violent revolution won’t happen and won’t change anything anyway. You need to accept that most people just don’t agree with you.
Lemmy is a small echo chamber that isn’t indicative of majority opinions in the real world. That’s why Lemmy was sooooo shocked that Trump won, while most people weren’t surprised.
Advocating violence isn’t the answer. Have a great day, mate!
No offence, but I can tell you’ve lived an extremely sheltered life if you’ve never had to resort to violence.
The reality is that sometimes violence comes to you, whether you like it or not, and you can’t use diplomacy to stop it.
Do you think the children in African villages can use diplomacy to stop murderous warlords who make piles of bodies on the streets? Or eat still-beating childrens’ hearts because they’re told it will give them strength?
I do one day hope for a world where diplomacy solves everything, but when people want power and control and they don’t care who they kill or maim to get it and keep it, you dont always get the choice of diplomacy, because they despise your existence. They dont value your life. You’re scum to them, and they abhor that you’re still breathing.
Yeah, America might a ways off a full-blown civil war, but its coming whether they like it or not because the alternative is a life of complete slavery and servitude, and the elites looove to use violence. It’s their main tool.
I wish I could be as ignorant of history and reality as you.
I hope you have a good day too, mate.
I live “an extremely sheltered life” because I don’t resort to violence?! Say wat, mate?! Do you realize that most people in the us have never been in a fight or needed to be?!
The US isn’t going to have a civil war, a revolution, and it’s not going to be toppled anytime soon. lol I know that makes Lemmy really really mad and the doomers want everything to end now. Not gonna happen. Stay mad.
Lemmy is full of extremists who want the world to end. It’s not going to, so accept it.
Feel free to be angry at the world. You do you. I’m fine and happy where I am. Today is beautiful and I’m gonna go watch the kids fly kites today. So smiles and laughing are the agenda today.
Good luck out with being mad all the time. I’m not gonna go that route.
You claiming all of lemmy is one homogenized group and saying we’re all angry … while you’re on here, too?
Yeah, you sound pretty mad bro. You do you.
Good point. So…MOST of lemmy is angry is more accurate. In fact, you can see it in this very thread.
People have left lemmy because of all the negativity. Lemm.ee shut down because of the negativity and burnout that it was causing. Bruh, I’m getting downvoted because I don’t advocate violence. Does that sound welcoming and friendly to you? lololol
Heck, even lemmings.world is shutting down in July because the admin said that he was disappointed in how much Lemmy had devolved into politics, extremism, and negativity. He said he loved the idea of it, but now it’s just politics and arguing now: https://lemmings.world/post/41938713
More examples: https://piefed.social/c/fedimemes/p/1825718/hurts-every-time
Look around. I’m not the only one to think this. My fiance lasted one week on Lemmy before she got tired of the negativity and anger. Then she deleted her account.
But don’t worry, I’m not leaving. I’m being the change I wanna see. And I’m never going to advocate violence either.
My life is awesome and filled with love and activity. I’m not gonna join on on the doomer brigade. Hope you have a great day.
I mean, you kinda just proved their point that you’ve lived a sheltered life with little to no issues tho…
By posting politics?..
This is a news article in a news community. This isn’t a political community. Look at my posts. The vast majority of my posts are general news articles. So yes, being the change I wanna see.
Violence is very often the answer chosen by our state, whether that be ICE’s ongoing rounding up of minorities to throw them in camps, or the bombing of schools in Iran, or the funding of an ongoing genocide in Gaza. Police in the US repeatedly murder racial minorities. George Floyd, Sonia Massey, Breonna Taylor. Homeless people, the most vulnerable of us, are regularly forced to move via violence or are incarcerated. Which leaves them in a systemic loop of violence that makes it difficult to ever recover. The progress made in this country was never made without violence, the civil rights movement was filled with it. When you claim that it’s unacceptable for regular people to ever resort to violence, you legitimise the state’s monopoly on it as a method. Very few of us, including those on lemmy, desire a civil war, and violence as a method of creating change is not without it’s merits, nor does it mean we have a civil war. Voting can only go so far in a rigged political system, and it is important to remember that we learned how to deal with fascism during WW2.
I don’t believe in violence. And I will never advocate violence.
Lemmy is comprised mostly of keyboard warriors who don’t even leave their houses to vote, much less start a revolution. No revolution or civil war will be happening in the US. lol
I don’t necessarily desire a revolution or civil war, But if you want to make claims about the voting status of Lemmy users, you can’t just pull that one out of your ass, my dude. This platform is definitely left leaning, and it’s definitely comprised of a lot of geeks. I would question, do you think that the Holocaust could have been stopped without the use of force? If someone broke into your home and threatened your life, do you think that the appropriate response would be to let them do whatever they want? Most people in that situation would call the police, which is a form of violence.
I don’t advocate violence, and I never will. Let’s agree to disagree.
What would you do if someone was about to be murdered, but you could stop them only by committing violence? What about if you were about to be murdered? Your family? Your children?
I mean, we say violence is never the answer, but most people would absolutely say violence is justified in those cases. Violence as a means to stop violence is generally seen as okay. We should never resort to violence when we do not have to, but violence is sometimes the answer.
Violence isn’t the answer. I know you desperately want a civil war here in the US. Not gonna happen, no matter how much you want it to happen.
Where’s the revolution, bro? People aren’t even bothered enough to vote, they def ain’t gonna leave their house to start a revolution. lol
Advocating violence isn’t the answer.
I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about, but I don’t really think I advocated for a revolution. But if I did, please refer me to it, so I can rectify my memory problems.
I don’t want a civil war. But, I am not going to condemn violence in all forms. Sometimes, violence is the answer, even if it is the last option. That’s why we teach people (and CHILDREN) self-defense (literally a form of violence used beneficially.)
It specifically benefits anyone that is okay with the status quo to have no violence, but that isn’t really great for those which are being exploited. So, like, it is an extremely privileged take to say violence is never the answer.
I will. My opinion is that violence is never the answer. The post for this thread is literally about a plot to assassinate Trump.
I don’t think assassination is the answer. If you don’t agree. That’s ok. We can agree to disagree.
So if someone intended to stab you and you had access to a weapon, you’d just… Let yourself be stabbed by a stranger?
I’m not going to advocate for violence, not matter what you say or ask.
You keep motte and baileying. Please point to the post where I called for assassination.
Just answer the question: Is self-defense also never the answer? Because self-defense is literally violence. Should people being beat to death not fight back? That’s also violence. You condemn them all when you say that.
I never said you called for assassination. I said I don’t, and that if you don’t agree, cool. If you do agree, cool.
I’m not going to advocate for violence, no matter what you say or ask.