• deft
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    7 days ago

    People are so dumb when it comes to voting. It really has become sport team mentality.

    Trump has 0 platform, no plans, nothing. But he said he’d punch brown kids or something and everyone liked that I guess

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      7 days ago

      Yeah I feel people are looking at something over arching which sure is a thing for your philosophy and direction but when it comes down to the vote every election has to be looked at in terms of the options you have for it. Voting in the primaries is different than the general and you can get active to influence who is on the primary ballot. I really think its the lazy voters who getinto 5D complex strategies of diggin deeper to get back above ground.

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        6 days ago

        Agreed Kamala wasn’t a great choice but she was the better realistic option in this election.

        I definitely wanna support third party voting and trying to fix the whole two party dominance but people are unrealistic and exaggerate massively about it. Libertarian party is completely a joke, Green party seems okay but I don’t like Jill Stein, the PSL looks good on paper but their desire to totally overhaul the entire system is unrealistic when they can’t even nab a few local elections.

        This also was not the election to play those games with in my opinion. McCain vs Obama was probably a far better time for all that, but hindsight is 20/20 so I can’t really blame them all

        That all said, vote Vermin Supreme. I want my damn unicorn

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          6 days ago

          When it comes down to it republicans are just to dangerous. They have abandoned any semblence of principles. They literally have to go and we need the dems to split or just like the greens gain a lot or such. It just aint going to happen until republicans lose again and again and again. I mean its not like we will get massive left from the dems but it won’t have total nuttiness. I agree with kamala. Not my cup of tea but she was vice president and would have been president if joe had died at some point. I loved the biden administration because of what all got accomplished in one term and wanted to see it continue. I think its a testament to what he got done by how quickly trump reversed everything he could from it and managed to be more scared and obsessed of him than obama. It still drives me mad to wonder about how different the world would be if the hanging chads thing had went the other way.

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            6 days ago

            The big thing that made me enjoy the Biden administration was boring the news cycle was. It’s what gives me confidence that Trump isn’t this big bad end of all things people try to spell him out to be. It’ll take one, maybe two decent presidents for things to at least be okay.

            Yeah we have massive hurdles ahead of us as a country and species with climate change, food insecurities and the technological revolution that’s constantly blasting forward but I trust what history teaches me, things will just keep plodding on.

            Although I do wonder if trump could be the actual antichrist. Like Jesus christ if you built this character into a show or something it would feel unbelievable.

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              6 days ago

              im a doomer soo. for me not so much. I also think obama in two terms really could not get us back to where we were before bush jr. and biden could not get us back to after bush jr. levels with trump1 and trump2 is waaaayyyyy more destructive. I mean I think it will take a term just to get gov agencies back being run by professionals and another to start getting things good. We will need like two good presidents in a row that go two terms each to even get back to zero at a minimum. If trump is impeached in 2027.