• deft
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    6 hours ago

    Uh huh.

    But the reeducation camps the United States government forced indigenous Americans into was definitely genocide. Same banana.

    And no that is not how you get more leftists. Education is how you get more. This generation is 100% more right wing than the media wants to admit

    Also it’s spelled Kamala, maybe don’t talk about a country you’ve probably never even been to so confidently.

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      3 hours ago

      Frightful times breed frightful people. Being ‘left’ in the US means to be a hypocritical, moralist neoliberal, so don’t expect the revolution to start anytime soon.

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        I don’t want a revolution. Revolutions look nice on paper and being decades or centuries away from them seem nice but revolutions cause extreme instability that open up space for corruption and allow the very people you’re often trying to help fall through the cracks.

        We didn’t get the 40 hour work week because people fought and died for it, unfortunately. It might have brought the conversation forward but it likely delayed results as states prioritize control and stability and will increase their means of violence to do so. We got the 40 hour work week because the right people were elected.

        Unfortunately the same with slavery but in an odd opposite way. The civil war ended slavery, but only because increasingly officials who were anti slavery were elected and that put pressure on southern states to engage in violence as they feared slavery would end. Which caused the government to increase their means of violence and force stability, ending slavery.

        The solution is obvious, educated people make better decisions including electing better officials and they will steer society the right way. Currently the level of frustration has made people close off their opinions, disengage from electoral processes and regress back into factions prone to infighting. I fear a revolution, it will immediately land on the feet of the poor, destitute and desperate and harm them probably killing the very people a revolution is supposed to help.

        I’m not preaching total non-violence here. There will be violence. But starting a full blown revolution is not the path forward in my opinion. Regardless of how people want to portray it stability is way closer than it seems, uniting together and education are the shortest paths to it.

        And people who comment that harris and trump are the same are actively ruining those avenues to a solution because often they’re not interested in a solution they’re interested in being right and being heard and making people believe they are right.

        That’s just my take though.

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          Liberal corporatism may look different from conservative corporatism, but its still corporatism. The democrats are the go-to party for leftists, but not because they are actually a ‘left’ party. Change would require a whole new political vision for US society. We’ve seen what the Republicans think is the right way to go, the Democrats are simply doing what they always do; moderate and conform.

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            3 hours ago

            But we aren’t going to get there by smashing thousands of souls into a war likely not to end with results that are good.

            Ranked voting, removing the two party dominance, term limits, openness about where funding is going and the end of this whole government hides behind choices to fight “terrorism” or whatever they sell needs to end. That won’t happen with violence.

    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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      6 hours ago

      Lmfao. No the 100 million dead native Americans are what makes what the US did a genocide.

      I agree, education is key, which is why china’s leaders are 60% stem degree holders lol.

      I couldn’t give less of a fuck on how to spell a war criminal removed name.