cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/68752761 which was cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/64103917

I thought about saying “you know it’s a grift when they collect personal information and leak it.” According to their Bible, you don’t need an app to pray. They say church (or a covenant, I forget, it’s been 30+ years since I read the KJV) is when any two people come together to talk about Jesus (sorry!). So, where does an app fit in? And why does that app need your personally identifiable information (referred to as PII in industry). Wouldn’t an all-knowing God already have it?

But you don’t have to know it’s a grift… I feel like this is proof the Vatican (or whoever made this app on their behalf, and thus speak on their behalf… and the Pope allegedly speaks on God’s behalf) themselves know it’s a grift. Because why would they need your PII?

I know, fools and their money are soon parted… just saw this on /all and figured the Fediverse’s top Atheism comm should have it.

  • root
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    1. Another approach to estimating the year of birth is based on an attempt to work backwards from the point when Jesus began preaching, using the statement in Luke 3:23 that he was “about 30 years of age” at that time.[24] Jesus began to preach after being baptized by John the Baptist, and based on Luke’s gospel John only began baptizing people in “the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar” (Luke 3:1–2), which scholars estimate would place the year at about AD 28–29.[24][25][26][27][28] By working backwards from this, it would appear that Jesus was probably born no later than 1 BC.[8][24][27] Another theory is that Herod’s death was as late as after the January eclipse of 1 BC[29] or even AD 1[30] after the eclipse that occurred in 1 December BC.[31]

    Luke’s date is independently confirmed by John’s reference in John 2:20 to the Temple being in its 46th year of construction when Jesus began his ministry during Passover, which corresponds to around AD 27–29 according to scholarly estimates.[32]

    from Wikipedia. We dont have a year-for-year 100% accurate account of ancient history.

    1. Relying only on your physical senses? God gave you free will and your rational soul along with your intellect. God did not make you disbelieve.

    2. You know you can plan things right? God intended for animals to be companions to us and then created them, then us.

    3. Maybe the ancient Hebrews used a different way of calculating time than we do? And God performs a lot of miracles when he sees fit.

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      We dont have a year-for-year 100% accurate account of ancient history.

      Because all-powerful god failed to convey a simple timeline?

      Relying only on your physical senses?

      That is our only means of acquiring data, yes.

      God gave you free will and your rational soul along with your intellect.

      No, he didn’t. We evolved what we call consciousness over many generations. There is no evidence of god, free will, or souls.

      God did not make you disbelieve.

      If you believe he made my brain and this world, yes yes he did.

      You know you can plan things right? God intended for animals to be companions to us and then created them, then us.

      That’s not what the bible says. Why is the bible wrong?

      Maybe the ancient Hebrews used a different way of calculating time than we do? And God performs a lot of miracles when he sees fit.

      Or maybe it’s all bullshit and you are an intellectual and moral coward. Why couldn’t god make it more clear if he meant what you interpret him to mean? How do you know your interpretation is correct when other common interpretations contradict yours?

      Kids are dying for your false beliefs. More each day.

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        1. No, because historians arent God

        2. It isn’t

        3. He did

        4. Genesis 2:19 Therefore, the Lord God, having formed from the soil all the animals of the earth and all the flying creatures of the air, brought them to Adam, in order to see what he would call them. For whatever Adam would call any living creature, that would be its name.

        5. How do you know your interpretation of the Earth itself is correct when the flat earth theory exists?

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          No, because historians arent God

          Nor did I say that, dipshit. Focus.

          If god is all-powerful, why couldn’t he convey simple facts clearly through the bible he supposedly influenced? Why does it contradict itself and our reality at all?

          It isn’t

          Saying things doesn’t make them true. Even if you are correct (which you are not), you have done nothing to demonstrate that.

          He did

          Saying things doesn’t make them true. That’s all the bible is, by the way. People saying things.

          Genesis 2:19 Therefore, the Lord God, having formed from the soil all the animals of the earth and all the flying creatures of the air, brought them to Adam, in order to see what he would call them. For whatever Adam would call any living creature, that would be its name.

          You skipped the contradiction. Genesis 1 and 2 disagree about whether animals or humans were created first.

          Also, the idea that animals were created for us to eat and exploit is deeply fucked. STOP DEFENDING ABUSE.

          How do you know your interpretation of the Earth itself is correct when the flat earth theory exists?

          Evidence. Have you never ridden on an airplane or used a telescope? Are you seriously comparing your own beliefs to the flat earth theory? This is suicidal stupidity, and you’re taking us down with you. Do better.