• deft
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    8 months ago

    Oh shut up. Vote locally and fix this shit together the whole focus on federal is the problem. Reinforce state rights over federal and within a generation we could be back on track.

    This whole demonizing of Biden and the Democrats is so stupid. They’re held by corporations because we’ve failed to use our votes properly and put shit heads in power.

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      8 months ago

      Ding ding ding

      I actually don’t agree that Biden is more of the same bullshit; at least domestically he’s done some fuckin massive things, empowered unions, taken big action on climate change for the first time I think anyone in power in the US has taken it seriously. But even if you don’t believe that (or regardless of it, if you’re angry as hell that he abetted a genocide, which, I get) – what’s the logic on saying “I am so unhappy with politics in the US that I will decide not to get involved with it anymore and just let things take their course no matter how much worse they might get”?

      The right answer if you’re pissed off about Biden and the DNC, is to try to figure out how to get what you want (which, if you think for 5-10 seconds, you will realize Trump not being in office is absolutely critical to) and work for it. The American government is not going away any time soon (at least, not without getting replaced with something 10 times worse). It will be there, whether you’re involved or not. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by taking this bullshit “Well if you will not take me to Disneyworld I will leave the stove on and if the house burns down, oh well” petulant attitude. We tried that approach after 1968, and it kind of felt-like-it-made-sense at the time for more or less the same reasons, and look where it got us. From JFK and the civil rights act, to “welfare to work” and death squads all over Central America and everyone’s favorite chart.

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      8 months ago

      “oh no someone expressed deep and genuine discomfort with the future of their state, better tell them to shut up about it”

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        Because it is poorly framed and this is why voter turnout was so bad for so long. This mentality is part of the problem

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      I’m with you except the states rights over federal, it’s pretty obvious that the states rights argument has been taken over by the forces that wish to divide and conquer on working class and disenfranchised folks’ interests. We gotta adopt something like German Federalism to begin shaking this all out.

      Felony Law is the exclusive domain of the Federal Government

      Criminal Law is the domain of both with Federal Law taking primacy

      Civil Law is the domain of the states with the exception of a law passed with a qualified super majority of the house and senate, (2/3rds of the voting representatives and senators representing a total of at least 2/3rds of the population)

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        8 months ago

        Wasted your time to say something completely stupid.