• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Because the genocide is the point.

    Israeli leadership have admitted to funding Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results - the only credible explanation for this is that it was to manufacture the pretext for their current actions.

    #justautocraticfascistethnostatethings

  • SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
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    Update tou your question, though this targeted towards Hezbullah and not Hammas: Bro they just took ~2000 of them with pinpoint accuracy in one go!

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    The “war” in Gaza isn’t meant to take out Hamas. It’s meant to eradicate the Palestinian people.

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      Ok I have seen many replies saying the same thing but the question I got if say they take Gaza what are they going to do with it? Just focus on the West Bank?

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        5 days ago

        Occupy it? Same thing they’ve been doing to all Palestinian land, piece by piece since the 40s

  • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    The goal is not to destroy Hamas. This is a ridiculous excuse. Their true objective is to remove all the Palestinians from their homes, so they can occupy the land. Israel is a fascist, imperialist actor that tries to manipulate everyone through propaganda distributed through international media.

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    7 days ago

    Because Israel’s goal is the kill all Palestinians. According to the 3000 year old fairy tales they believe in, anyone who is not an Israelite must be killed driven off from their promised land.

    Israel is a religious theocracy run by crazy genodical maniacs.

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    The intention is to “liquidate” Gaza like the Wermacht liquidated the Warsaw ghetto in 1943. It is an annihilation. Hamas and the hostages are just the excuse.

    Zionists did the same thing to the rest of Palestine in the Nakba of 1948. Israelis now call this the Gaza Nakba.

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    Err… did I misunderstood the question, or do (nearly?) all commenters have no idea what they’re talking about?

    You’re asking why Israel doesn’t assassinate Hamas’s top leaders, right? Or did I misunderstood and you asking Israel doesn’t ONLY assassinate Hamas’s top leaders? Or are you asking why Israel responded differently to Munich?

    To answer the first question, well… they are. Hamas’s top leaders according to BBC are:

    • Ismail Haniyeh - Killed.
    • Mohammed Deif - Probably killed.
    • Marwan Issa - Killed.
    • Mahmoud Zahar - Alive. is 79 years old and might not be active/influential in the leadership.
    • Khaled Meshaal - Alive.
    • Yahya Sinwar - Alive.

    Also, keep in mind that the response to the Munich massacre took about 2 decades.

    As to why Israel dosen’t ONLY assassinate Hamas’s leadership, the simple answer is that it won’t solve anything. It won’t bring the hostages home (It will probably have opposite effect as a. it will leave Israel without a centralized entity with whom to negotiate and b. Sinwar might be using hostages as human shields, which also might explain why he’s still alive), and it will still leave Israel with a terrorist entity next door. The official Israeli version is that the assassinations, among other things, serve as leverage on Hamas leaders to secure a deal. Obviously, this is only effective if there is some leadership left.

    If you’re asking why Israel responded differently to Munich, it’s because the situation is totally different in numerous ways. But the question itself is also factually wrong - Israel didn’t only assassinate the leaders of Black September. Firstly, the goal was to “assassinate individuals they accused of being involved in the 1972 Munich massacre”, not just the leaders. Not only that, Israel also responded with raids and bombings (for example: 1973 Israeli raid in Lebanon).

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    My guess is that assassination isn’t as easy as it is made out to be in the movies. The CIA, the best funded intelligence agency in the world, tried to take out Castro hundreds of times and failed. They couldn’t find Osama for a decade, either, and even then the US used Seals, not the CIA. Sure, killing some rando is probably easy, but not a government leader who is actively avoiding assassination, as I’m sure Hamas leaders are doing.

  • SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
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    Yes, hammas leaders over the years were assasinated by mossad. Including just a month or so ago. Top leader Ismayil Haniya was assasinated by the mossad on Iranian Soil. Gaza is a whole different story. Though mossad is involved there as well. You cannot just go to Gaza and pretend you are gazan. There are so small subtleties as to be “gazan” that can be picked right away by any local. Its a small community where everyone knows everyone.

    Mistaarvim, which is a special unit of the police in Israel specializes on exactly that. Pretending to be arab gazan or arab west bank and conduct operations there. And they have presumably rescued hostages and assassinated specific hammas people. You might as well consider them a specialized unit of the mossad if you will.

    Waging war on Gaza is to a. Put pressure to rescue the hostages and b. To eradicate Hammas on its people, infrastructure and weapons. So that OCT 7 will never happen again. You cant use Mossad operations to do that. You do that with actual war and shit.

    All that “the war is to kill all Palestinians” is BS. This war will stop the moment hostages are released and hammas surrenders. Israel isnt putting 10% of its capabilities in was into Gaza. They could eradicate Gaza in just a few days if they wanted.

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    Israel isn’t “bombing stuff into oblivion”, they’re doing two things:

    1. Attacking subterranean structures with ground-penetrating (aka “2000 pound”) bombs, and

    2. Clearing a one-mile cordon along the border of structures so that Hamas attackers can’t do what they did on Oct 8, which was train and amass along the border fence in secret, hidden among the buildings and blended in with the populace.

    If your army has to cross a mile of open ground to attack your fence, it’s a lot more obvious when they start. One of the reasons they succeeded in “surprising” Israel is that they just were there right by the fence, for years, until it seemed “normal.” With the buildings gone, they can’t do that.

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      Anyone who is sane is like fuck Israel fuck Hamas. We need those buildings. Stop you fucking idiots.

      gets assasinated

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        Gaza doesn’t deserve buildings after Oct 7, but the Jews of Israel offer more grace to their enemies than I would

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            Sure; it started hundreds of years ago via Arab colonization of Judea and Samaria.

            Or did you intend history to only begin once the Jews hit back?

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                  The Jews are not all that great. The Jewish settlers in Israel have always been out to kill. Conversely, the Palestinians have always been pissed at the so-called Zionists who just started showing up and claiming land. Actually Settlers from Israel keep doing that illegal shot.

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      Nor do they want to rescue the hostages. It’s all an excuse to carry out death. In Gaza and the West Bank.