Since I left Opera when it went Chromium around 2005, I was a very happy firefox user.

The new update added a button ‘List all tabs’ on my toolbar, that I cant remove without some css magic. I tried, and tried to get use to it. I cant. It distract me all the time, I have no use for it. And I dont have the patience to do the css editing needed to hide it. Plus, this is the second time I cannot easily customize FF (first time was when they forced some round edge Tab for no reason and no easy rollback), so I suppose the browser is toast for me.

For PC. What do you recommend for a change?

I recall at a time using some browser build on Firefox , “BlueFox” (ed:WaterFox) or something like that. Are those still operational? I just need a my speedial customisable And all the menu button to be removed/added. And firefox addon: uBlock, Yesscript, Cookie autodelete … Dont care for speed, or whatever.

On a side note: WTF with those browser deciding what we want? They can allow us to customize any layout, so why force some fucking button I never asked for? I dont see the endgame

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    38 minutes ago

    If you hadn’t mentioned it, I wouldn’t have noticed it.

    It seems easy to ignore way up there at the top right of my desktop version of Firefox, but you’re right, there doesn’t seem to be any easy way of hiding it.

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      Yeah it is fine, unless you have tabs all the way to the right… then it is surprisingly annoying. I kept misclicking on this shit, or loosing time avoiding it, when I need to move through a lot of tabs.

      May be it is just muscle memory, but the no-remove feature is dumb as fuck

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    2 hours ago

    Well, in case you want the CSS to hide it, it’s this:

    #alltabs-button {
    	display: none !important;
    }
    
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      57 minutes ago

      Thanks. But seems that something they could allow to remove from toolbar, like every other button. The choice to not let the user do that, sound like bad news. That the main reason for the change… it feel their User can customize everything model is fading away

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    2 hours ago

    I use LibreWolf on my personal computer and Waterfox on my work laptop. Both are leagues better than standard Firefox.

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      3 minutes ago

      Thanks. I will try LibreWolf. The name is promising EDIT: and MS try to prevent me to install it, which is the best endorsement you can give me MS

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    2 hours ago

    Desktop or mobile?

    I’ve recently started using Floorp and I like it a lot. It’s a Firefox fork with more customization options and improved privacy (though not to the level of Librewolf). I don’t remember if it has the button you want to remove since I’ve never used that feature or cared about it.

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    2 hours ago

    I am currently testing out Zen browser, and it seems fine. I am not sure how much it can be customized vis-a-vis Firefox, but I wanted something that remains Gecko based and relatively close to FireFox, and it seems to deliver.

    I tried LibreWolf, but I quickly realized it’s not for me. Not allowing websites to detect dark mode preferences is a level of paranoia I hope I’ll never reach.

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      Thanks, Just installed it. Doesnt seems to have an import option from firefox, only Edgme, Chrome and IE.

      EDIT: NeverMind: I imported the files by hand.

      EDIT2 : uninstalled: Their “core design” is having Tab to the left. May make sense on small device. On PC , I need to be see the name of my tab at a glance. So I need them horizontally

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        Gosh, I didn’t realize the tabs couldn’t be set to horizontal. That’s a likely deal breaker for a lot of people.

        I figured I’d give vertical tabs a chance (I usually keep too many tabs open to see their name anyway, and I understand the rational behind them), but not at all sure I’ll stick with it. Hopefully they’ll add support for horizontal tabs soon.

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      55 minutes ago

      Yes WaterFox, thanks for reminding me. It seems there was another one , I cant recall , that was known to be very lightweight