• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    How can you simultaneously claim that abortion was protected only by precedent, yet the democrats did everything in their power to preserve it?

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      Oh you’re trying so hard to build a strawman! How adorable.

      Roe was established case law. Reproductive rights were settled. Blaming Democrats when the actions of Republicans baselessly dismissed it is moronic.

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          You may wish to observe that the Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives, meaning the Democratic Caucus lacks the votes to reinstate it.

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            And, in states with Democratic majorities, they are codifying it at the state level. Sucks for the rest of us, though. I’m moving out of one of them for many reasons, but one important one is for my children.

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              Lots of red states are pushing for a vote on it and passing, too. It’s wild seeing “vote no on amendment 3” signs here in Missouri as if it’s not just advertising for the majority of us to show up and shut these chucklefucks up. I’m hoping that’s how it’ll go anyway 😓

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                Crossing my fingers for you! I’m hoping that Harris and certain single issue referenda (like marijuana) will bring people to the polls and while they’re there, they’ll vote for women’s rights.

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              IDK how that would possibly happen with Manchin and Sinema in there. It seems easier to pass a federal law.

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      Logically, the answer would have to be that Democrats lack the power to preserve it. Which happens to be true because:

      1. Ordinary legislation would not be sufficient to overturn state laws regarding abortion due to the 10th Amendment, and even if it was the 2/3 Republican court would overturn it anyway.
      2. A constitutional amendment would require a 2/3 majority that Democrats will not have in this lifetime.
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        And so why weren’t the courts getting stacked the moment Biden took office?

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          Two reasons:

          1. Ethics
          2. The GOP engaged in a campaign of doing everything, fair and foul, to prevent or at least slow this from happening.