• funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        I see. So, when Palestinians kill 1200 people, Israel should just stand by and watch?

        I don’t think so. Israel has every right to defend itself and only the Palestinians, Hamas, Hisbollah and Iran are to blame for using civilians as a shield.

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          2 months ago

          Palestinians are to blame for beeing used as civillian shields? Are palestinians like some terrorists for you?

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                2 months ago

                I don’t understand how this isn’t an obvious problem with the argument that “they voted for Hamas.” If you paint all Palestinians with this brush, the exact same logic can be used to paint all Israeli as warmongering genocidal psychopaths. Or perhaps that conclusion is tacitly accepted by the people making the argument and therefore using the reverse as justification for their actions is kosher.

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                2 months ago

                They did. And Israel did not attack on 07.10.2023 and killed 1200 civilians. It was Hamas. And now Hamas and their friends get what they deserve.

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              Most people in Gaza were not born yet when the last election was held. The median age of Gazans in 2020 was 18. Also, 1. was it a free and fair election? 2. was there good alternatives? 3. Does that mean the children deserve to die? 4. What do you think happens to the children thay grow up in a genocide? Do you think they a) become upstanding, healthy citizens? or b) become radicalized? Violence leads to more violence. Noone is born a terrorist, but Israels far right government’s genocide is creating them.

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                2 months ago

                Well, maybe they should get rid of the terrorists then? The fact is, they happily support Hamas.

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                  2 months ago

                  If Israel is expecting Palestinians to get rid of Hamas, why aren’t they giving them the weapons necessary to do so? Arm the PLO and be done with it.

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              2 months ago

              And then hamas went into authorian mode and stopped the voting and rights like 15 years ago…

              So its not actually that the palestinians are still supporting their stance.

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                2 months ago

                The Palestinian terrorists still have many hostages in their hands. Why should Israel stop what they’re doing?

                Point is: Hamas and co. don’t want to release them. They want the war to continue. And that’s what they get.