He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours’ long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It’s really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist ‘nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies’ tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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  • ComradeWizardmon2 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It’s not a moot point because they did a symbolically genocidal thing. It’s a moot point if there’s no path to make him preference ‘foreign’ and ‘domestic’ lives equally.

    Voting doesn’t really matter, it’s the act of capeing for fascists that’s the active problem and the “fuck you got mine” expression. It’s the fact he hasn’t truly given up because he did in fact actively argue in favour of genocide to protect himself.

    On a personal level, because it’s someone you care about, it may be worth the effort to fight them on this. I’m not so sure there’s any political utility in fighting a lesser evilism fascist in general terms but part of that is because they do not value strangers’ lives, he might value yours. Or, it may not be worth it. I’m not you, I don’t know him.

    Had to retype this on pc cause my phone ain’t letting me post lol.