It’s funny how just exposing the religious to alternative afterlife’s is enough to completely lose a lifetime of teaching and servitude, and strips away any inclination for a pleasant afterlife. No convincing or reapplying every seven days - nope, just being near a thing removes all of Jesus’ teachings.
I think it says more about their actual beliefs in God. As a Christ follower, I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it. Hell, it’s theorized Moses was tripping on shrooms when talking to God.
Those who fear being exposed to “other” things will take them away from God (beyond addiction, that’s a whole other thing), then they never believed in the first. They just use it as a shield to justify their horrible actions.
Not sure how you got puritanical from that. It’s actually medical. Anything in excess will damage your body. I’m just as concerned for people’s bodily health as I am their spiritual health.
After a lifetime of falling from grace at the hands of two liter sodas, I understand that I’m weak in my self-control. Now I only drink soda in cans (despite the cost and environmental impact) as part of my commitment to moderation. Controlling the temptations I may not prevail over is part of my battle for moderation.
That says nothing about the power of big sodas to impact my health, my life, merely that I understand where I’m all too human
If it makes you feel better, from a purely environmental perspective, drinking soda from aluminum cans is probably way better than plastic bottles due to higher aluminum recycling rates and much higher efficiency of the aluminum recycling process compared to plastic.
It’s funny how just exposing the religious to alternative afterlife’s is enough to completely lose a lifetime of teaching and servitude, and strips away any inclination for a pleasant afterlife. No convincing or reapplying every seven days - nope, just being near a thing removes all of Jesus’ teachings.
I’ve made this argument to religious friends and family members resistant to trying psychedelics.
“If a little piece of paper or a little mushroom risks getting rid of God, what does that say about God?”
I think it says more about their actual beliefs in God. As a Christ follower, I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it. Hell, it’s theorized Moses was tripping on shrooms when talking to God.
Those who fear being exposed to “other” things will take them away from God (beyond addiction, that’s a whole other thing), then they never believed in the first. They just use it as a shield to justify their horrible actions.
Idk, you kinda told on your puritanical background there. If my path requires drugs in excess, who are you to judge?
Not sure how you got puritanical from that. It’s actually medical. Anything in excess will damage your body. I’m just as concerned for people’s bodily health as I am their spiritual health.
I suspect we’re dealing with a difference in how you two are defining “excess.”
“A lot more than normal” vs “a quantity sufficient to be toxic/medically harmful.”
100% agreed. Assumptions were made. It’s all good. Communication is key to understanding differences and growing.
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Presumably it says more about their faith ……
Here’s a ridiculous analogy
After a lifetime of falling from grace at the hands of two liter sodas, I understand that I’m weak in my self-control. Now I only drink soda in cans (despite the cost and environmental impact) as part of my commitment to moderation. Controlling the temptations I may not prevail over is part of my battle for moderation.
That says nothing about the power of big sodas to impact my health, my life, merely that I understand where I’m all too human
If it makes you feel better, from a purely environmental perspective, drinking soda from aluminum cans is probably way better than plastic bottles due to higher aluminum recycling rates and much higher efficiency of the aluminum recycling process compared to plastic.
Afterlives*