I get that it’s open source provided you use codium not code but I still find that interesting

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    VSCode isn’t even that good, idk why people are obsessed with it.

    For anything compiled, Jetbrains beats it 100:1, and for anything interpreted it’s a couple tiers better than Kate.

    Personally, I won’t be losing sleep if I have to stop using VSCode.

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      If jetbrains is that much better really depends on the language. Also, jetbrains shit is damn expensive, so not a fair comparison.

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        They have free ‘community editions’, I haven’t really found a need for a licence. I’ve only used IntelliJ, PyCharm, and ReSharper though.

        Edit: I meant rider but I was using a student licence for it anyway.

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          IntelliJ and PyCharm are the only JetBrains IDEs with community editions. If you want to use CLion for example, you’ll either have to be a student or you have to pay.

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            or the project being opensource(it’s i read right now) don’t know how it work tho

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              Your project needs to be at least 3 months old with regular commits of code files (text files, readmes, or any other non code don’t count). That’s pretty much it.

              I just went through the process, but since my project is only a month old, I got rejected. They told me to apply again in 2 months. My project is in Python, so I’m just using the community edition in the meantime, which is fine. I just really want the test code coverage feature of the paid version.

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        Also, jetbrains shit is damn expensive

        Is it though? Considering the amount of time you spent in it and the potential productivity increase it might give you I’d consider it very fairly priced.

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          Expensiveness does not have to mean it isn’t priced fairly. Not everyone has the money to drop on tools like it, or is able to get their work to pay for it, even it is worth it.

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          For some time now I mostly write rust and I’m actually very satisfied with VS Code and rust-analyzer. I tried intelliJ-rust but didn’t find it better. To be fair, I haven’t tried the new jetbrains rust IDE though.

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      The thing is the VS code handles everything (with extensions). If I want to use pandoc, or CSV to markdown table, python linting, Go, whatever, there’s extensions that can handle all of these equally well and consistently, for example format on save.

      If I want to use jetbrains then the pycharm for python, intelliJ for Java, Goland for golang… Then there’s licencing depending on whether I’m using a personal licence or corporate laptop, whether I have to get a licence from my employer etc.

      For me it’s not so much that it’s so good, but that it works with everything in a consistent and obvious way plus I can install it on any machine I might be using.

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        The Intellij plugin ecosystem is pretty good. Granted my day job is 80% Java/Kotlin but I also need python and ruby and go and the plug-ins have never let me down. I don’t have pycharm or Ruby Mine or Goland installed.

        The license also explicitly lets you use your work license for personal stuff or your personal license for work stuff. The only difference is who pays. You also don’t need a license to use the community edition.

        It’s also pretty good at CSV and markdown files. I might be biased because I spend probably 60 hours a week using Intellij but I don’t find any of your points against it to be accurate.

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          The freemium and constant “are you sure you dont want to pay?” from some intellij plugins is insulting enough that it’s hard to believe any developer would praise it. Presumably this doesnt happen in vscode because it cant happen in vscode, not because people arent shameless enough to do it there.

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              Ick. At the very least, i’ve seen it a LOT less in VSC. The fact that something as simple as rainbow brackets uses the freemium model in intellij sucks. I mean the fact that it’s not a builtin setting is dumb too but that’s beside the point

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      Jetbrains IDEs are not free though are they?

      I also quite like the light touch feel you get from code, I can use it for any language and am not going to have to navigate through hundreds of language specific features I don’t need unless I install them myself

      Kate might do similar but I can’t imagine the extension pool is big enough to compete and I think at that point I’d just use a commandline editor instead

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        Some are, the intellij java community edition is even open source. The paid ones are not too expensive, I pay around 200€ yearly for the all products pack and that’s definitely worth it for a professional developer. If you are a student or open source developer, you can apply for free versions also.

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      VSCode is a modern emacs. Similar concept, a single editor to do everything via extensions. That’s the selling point. “young people” never had the chance to work with a similar concept, this is why they found it so revolutionary (despite being a concept from the 70s).

      I use it because I am forced to use a windows laptop at work, and emacs on windows is a painful experience

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      I use vscode because I do a lot of embedded.

      Used to be that you had to jump through some hoops to make it work - make your own makefiles and stuff. Now, all the major vendors of MCUs are starting to develop vscode plugins as their “IDE” instead of those horrible ultramodified eclipse installs.

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      Exactly. Jetbrains stuff is great.

      With one notble exception: Android Studio, but it only sucks only because of the way Android is. And there is no alternative anyway…

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      Right tool for the right job. Like I use VSCode for PowerShell on AWS Windows boxes over SSH, works great. But for Python or Terraform, JetBrains Suite is just better in everyway.

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      I write small scripts in NeoVim and larger projects in VSCodium because it provides most of what I need and doesn’t consume a lot of resources. It’s a good tool, you can also use forks or alternatives, and i think that’s the spirit of open source, isn’t it?

      I also have been trying Kate, works greats and with even better performance.

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      I like VSCode because I can run it in a development container and because its the only FOSS IDE with an extension for IEC 61131-3 ST that I am aware of