• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Well the difference is that while both actively premeditated their murders whoever committed the crimes Mangioni has been accused of is far more of a menace because they had a specific target in mind and even worse it was someone rich instead of just anyone protesting the police tendency to murder.

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      10 hours ago

      Rittenhouse attacked 3 people, that’s 3x the danger. But I guess I forgot to count up their net worths.

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        7 hours ago

        He deliberately brandished a weapon to incite bystanders to try to defend themselves so he could kill them and call it self defense.

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        9 hours ago

        You don’t straw buy an AR then pick it up and cross state lines with it going to a known chaotic protest without premeditated “self defence”.

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        9 hours ago

        He absolutely did though, the whole point was he wanted to get into a fight be “forced” to defend himself.

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            9 hours ago

            He was literally filmed that night watching Antifa Members leave a CVS, where he said “If only I had my gun on me right now”

            He was also in an interview with a militia group bragging about “Never using non-lethal”

            He also had various facebook posts where he talked about wanting to kill.

            He also had a history of schoolyard violence against young girls.

            These were disallowed from being admitted as evidence by the judge who claimed these were “irrelevant”, even though they clearly paint a motive.

            There’s also the fact that you don’t travel across state lines with an illegal weapon because you love somebody else’s property that much. He had claimed he had been “Hired to protect a dealership” and that he was “Only there to provide medical assistance with the gun being purely for protection”, at one point he’d even been asked to leave by police who only allowed him to stay because he lied about being a “Trained EMT”

            Which resulted in the (often played out of context) clip of the police saying “We appreciate you guys, we really do!” as they gave him bottles of water. (Yet no charges for lying to law enforcement, self-misrepresentation, or “Stolen Valor”, curious)

            The fact that he wore gloves at all times while handling the weapon also shows he intended to use it for criminal purposes and took steps to hide his fingerprints.

            The evidence of pre-mediation is overwhelming, had the Judge not been a MAGA-Plant and the Prosecution not been incompetent “DID THE VIDEO GAMES MAKE YOU DO IT KYLE?!!?!”

            It’s pretty obvious how this would have gone

          • granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
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            9 hours ago

            let’s just leave rittenhouse out of this. he got away, whatever.

            it is divisive, focus on the topic at hand. Luigi likely did not do it and health insurance it trash that must be reformed.

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              9 hours ago

              Luigi likely did not do it and health insurance it trash that must be reformed.

              Ah you’re right, I think that’s what matters more too. This is going to be one hell of a trial.

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                2 hours ago

                If the Judge were to ask me, I’d say pretty sure Luigi didn’t do it, I thought I saw Nancy Mace with the glock though.

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        5 hours ago

        I don’t think other commenters bothered to watch the trial.

        He was acting foolish but he certainly didn’t commit pre-meditated murder.