So basically NATO has been expanding its way eastward since its foundation (despite promises not to) and has now butted up against Russia. Russia wants Ukraine to not join, but the US disagrees so here we are.
Btw this war doesn’t have much to do with Putin or Zelensky, really. Replace the head of state for either country and you’d still end up with the same conflict. And people have been writing about this for decades now, Brzezinski in particular basically plotted out the US policies that led us here.
TL;DR because they got couped and are having a civil war right next to your border, are ignoring political attempts to resolve their issues, and want to join a military alliance that is an extreme threat to your national security
Ukraine has been in civil war since 2014 and hasn’t respected either of the ceasefires that it signed onto (Minsk protocols). The fight was broadly started over whether Ukraine should align itself with Europe & America or Russia. Since then, the country has been couped by the US and has been persecuting and killing Ukrainians who support Russia and/or protest the new government.
There’s also how Ukraine wants to join NATO, which would certainly mean that the US would station nukes right next to Moscow. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? This is basically the same thing but with even closer territories.
I’m not certain that Russia entering the war was the best move, but I’m also confident that US interference would never stop peacefully. I’m also certain that if it were a western country in a similar position, our media would be framing it as an intervention instead of an invasion. Keep in mind that Russia and Ukraine are separate countries in the first place because of US meddling and they’ve only been apart for ~30 years (many Russians have friends and family who died in the civil war prior to 2023).
? Russia is capitalist, engaging in imperialism, and committing genocide.
I’m also honestly confused as to why anyone would be pro-Russian
So basically NATO has been expanding its way eastward since its foundation (despite promises not to) and has now butted up against Russia. Russia wants Ukraine to not join, but the US disagrees so here we are.
Btw this war doesn’t have much to do with Putin or Zelensky, really. Replace the head of state for either country and you’d still end up with the same conflict. And people have been writing about this for decades now, Brzezinski in particular basically plotted out the US policies that led us here.
How do you justify invading a sovereign nation?
TL;DR because they got couped and are having a civil war right next to your border, are ignoring political attempts to resolve their issues, and want to join a military alliance that is an extreme threat to your national security
Ukraine has been in civil war since 2014 and hasn’t respected either of the ceasefires that it signed onto (Minsk protocols). The fight was broadly started over whether Ukraine should align itself with Europe & America or Russia. Since then, the country has been couped by the US and has been persecuting and killing Ukrainians who support Russia and/or protest the new government.
There’s also how Ukraine wants to join NATO, which would certainly mean that the US would station nukes right next to Moscow. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? This is basically the same thing but with even closer territories.
I’m not certain that Russia entering the war was the best move, but I’m also confident that US interference would never stop peacefully. I’m also certain that if it were a western country in a similar position, our media would be framing it as an intervention instead of an invasion. Keep in mind that Russia and Ukraine are separate countries in the first place because of US meddling and they’ve only been apart for ~30 years (many Russians have friends and family who died in the civil war prior to 2023).
So a neighboring country looking to join NATO, is suddenly a big enough threat to be reason for invasion?
How much do you know about NATO? And Russian history? 🤨
Yes.
No, the genocide in the donbass isEdit: Yes
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You’re on a tankie instance. They hate everyone.
No we hate western imperialists. More than 4/5th of the world is non-western people.
And, as westerners don’t see nonwesterners as human, us hating the west must seem to them as if we hated all “humans”
I also don’t hate non-imperialist westerners. But in the mind of the imperialist, non-imperialist westerners don’t exist.
Oh imperialists do know non-imperialists exist, they are calling them “traitors”, “Putin agents”, “Russian trolls”, etc.
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I’m not really surprised that A LOT of people got fooled by the most intensive propaganda campaign in human history.