Admits? Acknowledging that destroying capitalism is key to addressing the climate catastrophe is like admitting the sky is blue (or orange and smoky, as the case may be).
Agreed! And at least one young public figure says it.
It would be real weird if she did not conclude this
Most people don’t want to face the truth of the propaganda in front of them. It is easy to believe what your state wants you to believe. or keep you in a box to talk about anything other than capitalism.
I’m sorry to use such harsh language, but anyone who doesn’t understand that the world cannot be saved under capitalism is a few eggs short of a dozen.
I want people to have a good think and realize what’s the end game in capitalism. Each generation, more wealth and resources are hoarded by the most rich and powerful, and lower classes are left with less and less.
She still needs to kill some very nasty lib brainworms, I remember seeing some lib takes a few weeks ago from her
I am unaware. May you please explain their bad takes?
Well the link is gone, she was outright supporting nato which is the enforcer of capitaism/american hegemony
Oh look, uncited shit
I tried to link the ap news article, I clicked to check and make sure it was still up and it gave me an error, that’s why there’s a deleted comment from me. I didnt and don’t feel like tracking it back down
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Confronting truth. Let’s downvote…
Don’t really care about downvotes, to be expected since it blew up on lemmy.world for some reason tbh
I can confirm it was all over lemmygrad a week ago.
was it really only a week ago? felt like forever ago to me lol
Schellenberger is such a clueless opportunist that he can’t possibly understand. It’s incredibly ironic when you look at the various things he’s argued for in the past as well.
Good for her. She finally grew up and saw reality.
comrade, she is just aoc for zoomers
AOC is AOC for zoomers, Greta doesn’t have any power and there’s still some hope for her.
She just supported people that blown up Nordstream, Kakhovka dam (and a lot of other things), shelled nuclear plant, started and maintain that war and use depleted uranium shells. I would say that even from a strictly ecological point of view she fucked up incredibly.
She’s supporting the Ukrainians tho.
Are you actually saying that they did all this to themselves? That’s what the Russian state has been saying without credible proof.
Edit: I’d like to see where you got your info.
To themselves??? None of those were theirs.
Nordstream is Russian-German, not Ukrainian. Sabotaged obviously by USA, though USA claim Ukraine did it. <- note this shit, how they are wriggling themselves as pretzels and Greta is standing between them, supporting both possible perpetrators of that huge multitiered ecological catastrophe.
Kakhovka dam is on territory annexed by Russia and is very important strategic asset for Russia since it protects mainly Russian side and supplies Crimea with water, which is huge problem and was one of the main reasons Russians taken it. Also Ukraine previously already attacked it and they were freely admitting to WaPo they have a plan to blowing it. Also it wouldn’t be even first dam blown up by them.
Power plant is also occupied by Russians which had to shut it down because Ukraine was shelling it. Unless you believe the UA info that Russian artilery shelled literally themselves.
Uranium shells are supplied to Ukraine by UK. They will use it in Ukraine, so i guess this is what they do to themselves, it’s their kids who gonna be born with plethora of problems. Alternatively, they might bombard Donetsk with it i guess, they are under no illusion this city is theirs and they are routineley showering civilian objests and infrastructure there with cluster mines, and other supposedly rare munitions (weird how they beg around the world for it and then use it on pointless attacks on civilians).
it seem it is you who argue that Russia don’t even need an enemy because for some reason they keep attacking and sabotaging themselves all the time.
What I’m hearing is a tonne of supposition without backed up facts and hard reporting.
I would love to see a link to a news story covering the evidence. Otherwise this sounds like a social media consensus built in a speculation-echo-chamber.
HAHAHAHA now that’s fucking rich of you, coming here from the imperialist social media consensus.
But ok, i will humor you, though note that one sealion got banned already in this thread.
Power plant, here, here, here
Donetsk bombings plenty here
Uranium shells effects are pretty obviously researched in Iraq and Serbia, about howm seding it to Ukraine here and here. They are even bragging about it ffs.
I’m learning that “speculation echo chamber” is exactly what this instance is. Although “Russian propaganda repeater” might be more accurate as they don’t invent these narratives on their own.
You’re right, it makes much more sense that Russia would destroy their own pipeline which took 10 years to build so that Europe would buy US gas instead. And it makes perfect sense that Russia would destroy a dam they control and flood the defenses they had spent a whole year building, especially considering the Ukrainian counter offensive didn’t pan out and most of their soldiers died before ever seeing the fortifications.
There’s no proof of that either, but as a good citizen, I believe everything my government tells me. They have my own personal best interests at heart, after all. Especially when they turn away refugees and let them drown in the Mediterranean, I don’t know how but I’m sure it protects me.
Maybe they did the pipeline, but none of that other stuff.
Either way you haven’t actually showed me where you got any of this info.
I used my brain, which unfortunately seems to be becoming a rarer resource.
Where’s your evidence for saying Russia blew up the dam they controlled?
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Well she’s not wrong…
I love how some people hold her to much higher standards than the politicians they vote for.
I hope she has a good future. This is a good citizen of this world, something we lack dearly.
Thank you!
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Her body language in the pictures told a story of discomfort in my eyes. I would like to believe that she realised what a mistake she’d made when she met him.
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The only liberation Russia is doing in Ukrain is the liberation of Ukrainians and Russians by removing life from them.
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Man, this comment section is something
I think the “late stage capitalism” subreddit was lib friendly, so they see this one and behave the way they did there.
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well, shes not wrong.
She’s not wrong, but I feel its the wrong decision and statement to make.
why?
I’m glad she came to this conclusion, but her actions after that statement don’t seem to go too hand in hand.
What actions?
Anti-Russian/pro-Ukraine stuff
? Russia is capitalist, engaging in imperialism, and committing genocide.
I’m also honestly confused as to why anyone would be pro-Russian
So basically NATO has been expanding its way eastward since its foundation (despite promises not to) and has now butted up against Russia. Russia wants Ukraine to not join, but the US disagrees so here we are.
Btw this war doesn’t have much to do with Putin or Zelensky, really. Replace the head of state for either country and you’d still end up with the same conflict. And people have been writing about this for decades now, Brzezinski in particular basically plotted out the US policies that led us here.
How do you justify invading a sovereign nation?
TL;DR because they got couped and are having a civil war right next to your border, are ignoring political attempts to resolve their issues, and want to join a military alliance that is an extreme threat to your national security
Ukraine has been in civil war since 2014 and hasn’t respected either of the ceasefires that it signed onto (Minsk protocols). The fight was broadly started over whether Ukraine should align itself with Europe & America or Russia. Since then, the country has been couped by the US and has been persecuting and killing Ukrainians who support Russia and/or protest the new government.
There’s also how Ukraine wants to join NATO, which would certainly mean that the US would station nukes right next to Moscow. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? This is basically the same thing but with even closer territories.
I’m not certain that Russia entering the war was the best move, but I’m also confident that US interference would never stop peacefully. I’m also certain that if it were a western country in a similar position, our media would be framing it as an intervention instead of an invasion. Keep in mind that Russia and Ukraine are separate countries in the first place because of US meddling and they’ve only been apart for ~30 years (many Russians have friends and family who died in the civil war prior to 2023).
You’re on a tankie instance. They hate everyone.
No we hate western imperialists. More than 4/5th of the world is non-western people.
And, as westerners don’t see nonwesterners as human, us hating the west must seem to them as if we hated all “humans”
I also don’t hate non-imperialist westerners. But in the mind of the imperialist, non-imperialist westerners don’t exist.
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I’m not really surprised that A LOT of people got fooled by the most intensive propaganda campaign in human history.
What can I say. Seems like a clever girl with internally consistent views if she got there from ecology. Who knows, maybe she’ll even stop supporting Ukraine at some point!
If she isn’t a media project.
overthrow capitalism
supports empire’s military adventures
internally consistent
hmmm
She should start with reddit
Reddit is already doing an excellent job overthrowing itself.
Kind of weird given that last week she was just supporting Ukraine. I’m confused right now. Like, Wagner coup level confused.
Wdym, there are plenty of ultras that hate Russia and also capitalism in general
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Show and prove; that’s all I have to say about that.
Exactly, she said one thing, did the opposite. Btw i think i seen the that tweet from OP few months ago, so we already know.
Greta: Capitalism is to blame
Also Greta: meets up with volodymyr zelenśkyjI don’t get it
Well, what do you think about Zelenśkyj?
I like him. Am I not supposed to?
No, actually.
- He is holding political prisoners (Kononovyč brothers)
- He has banned multiple opposition parties
- He is continuing the Majdanite ban on the KPU and communist symbols.
- He suspended elections “until the war is over” and also stated “the war won’t be over until he takes Krym” Krym is rather deep in Russia’s territory by now and Zelenśkyj has trouble with Donbass let alone Krym. This boils down to “Zelenśkyj suspended elections indefinitely.” The Majdan regime is a literal fascist regime, attacking Russians and communists. (I’m not saying to support Russia either, although a lot of people on LG would say to support Russia)
Suspending elections until war is over is encoded in their constitution.
That does not make it better in any way.
Maybe take it up with the people who wrote the constitution.
