• Riversedgeknight1@lemmy.world
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    Their point was that incentivising rape allegations as a means to permit an abortion will lead to a non-zero number of instances where false allegations will occur. This is correct. Men weren’t being victimized, and comparing this guy with a rapist is immature and downright disrespectful to victims of rape.

    If you are ok with a few more instances of men being falsely accused of rape for the greater good of women, then your thinking is analogous to the person in the original post who was ok with 1 person being raped to stop the killing of thousands of unborn babies.

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      No. That is a bizarre assumption. No, an allegation is not sufficient for any of these backwards evil laws. And a conviction will never happen in time.

      So, bullshit. This will not increase the number of false accusations, which, again, is a fucking tiny percentage.

      Women are dying, in horrible agony. Loves are being ruined. And no, even if there was an increase in false accusations, which no there won’t be, but if there were?? I couldn’t care less.

      The pathetic and disgusting desire to make this about men is inexcusable. Fuck that bullshit. And, btw, that asshole I replied to sounds like a psychotic fucking abuser. It’s true. So blow me if you don’t like it, I don’t fucking care.

      The massive fucking amount of fear, pain, and death inflicted on women by this shit. If your honestly concerned about a complete fucking false danger to men? Go play a rousing game of hide and go fuck yourself.

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        You really invalidate your position when you state that you wouldn’t even care if more false accusations increase. You are making this a men vs. women issue which is it absolutely not. This tribalism is not only unproductive it’s destructive. I know plenty of informed women who are against abortion and plenty of informed men who favor it.

        You have an awful lot of faith in humanity if you think any law won’t get weaponized for evil when possible. But I guess a man wrongfully going to jail for 10-20 years for rape isn’t evil in your eyes, or you have gaslight yourself into believing that men are never victims.

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          False accusations are, statistically speaking, completely insignificant. You clearly have no idea how stupidly small the percentage is.

          Even so, a salary accusation just does compare to the damage caused to the women and children involved. So why the fuck would I care about men put in a situation where they might have to flee to another state or some shit.

          Tribalism? What the fuck are you even on about?! I care about the increase in human suffering. Fuck your tribalism bullshit, I didn’t give a shit about the talking heads and echo chambers.

          And these laws will be weaponized. And the suffering, pain, and death inflicted on the women and children… Honestly, your entire argument fucking disgusts me to the very core.

          The bigotry in your arguments is astounding. Not to mention the hypothetical harm your defending is just utterly asinine. Even if there’s an increase, false accusations still won’t be statistically significant on any level. But, oh my god, think of the poor…manly men??? Fuck that entire idea is stupid

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            You have no basis for your claim of false rape accusations being statistically insignificant. Only 2-5% of rape cases result in a conviction, which is the only provable statistic that is relevant, which suggests that 95%+ of rape accusations are false (obviously the legal system isn’t 100% just, my point is you have no evidence or basis for your claim).

            “I care about the increase in human suffering”. Like I said in my first reply, this is the same argument used in the original post, which everyone in this thread is shitting on. Take a good long look at your morals because they seem to be very extreme and unstable.

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        Women are dying, in horrible agony.

        The answer is no conditions for abortion. Not purely inconsiderate supremacist conditions as a compromise with those who’s vision of natalism is to punish every pregnancy, instead of making families an affordable option to pursue happiness. Conditional permissions and social aid, is a compromise among fascists.