• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    It doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not the fetus is alive. If a 30-year-old man could only survive by being attached to my body, I should still have the right to say whether or not he can remain attached to me, even if it kills him.

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      5 days ago

      Listen, I’m on your side! Read my words here now, friend. I hear ya.

      But for the people who think the fetus is a person at the moment of the sperm making contact with the egg, it’s all about the fetus. You get what I’m saying? One side is prioritizing the “wrong” thing, according to the other side. That’s the way she goes.

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        5 days ago

        It’s important to not let the other side frame the debate. You shouldn’t debate to convince them. That’s practically impossible. How many times have you seen a zealot (religious or otherwise) change their mind due to argument? For me, I would say “absolutely never”.

        Instead, you should argue for third parties watching the debate. Don’t let them set the ground rules as “Is a fetus a human life? Yes or no?” Let them argue “the right to life of a fetus” vs. “the right to control your own body”. That’s what the debate is really about, after all. Let people make an informed decision based upon the merits of the two positions.

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          I’m not in disagreement, but in my mind anyone you would call a zealot on any given issue is definitively someone whose mind can’t be changed.

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          5 days ago

          I never enter into debate regarding opinion topics with anyone, as a rule, because it is indeed fruitless, every time. 😄👍

          But yes, I agree with what you said here as well.