The U.S. plans to approve an arms package for Israel, including artillery shells, precision bombs, and GPS systems, though production and delivery could take years; Meanwhile, heavy bombs and bulldozer shipments face delays due to concerns over impact on civilians in Gaza

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    4 days ago

    Before anyone misunderstands my point, Israel is committing acts of genocide in Gaza and it’s allies are complicit by their (in)actions.

    However Israel and Ukrainian weapon deals are very different. Israel just pays for their weapons, as far as I know they do not get any financial support. Ukraine cannot afford that, so either the weapons are gifted or financed indirectly through sized assets. Morally it makes no difference imo, but economically there is a world of difference.

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      It is exactly the opposite. Ukraine gets lend leased weapons they need to pay back.

      Israel receives billions in military aid budget which they then use to “buy” American weapons with.

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      Morally it makes no difference imo, but economically there is a world of difference.

      Morally, Ukraine isn’t committing genocide.

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        I meant morally there is no difference to me wether the US sells or gifts the weapons Israel uses to bomb civilians. Ukraine and Israel are a world of difference.

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      Completely false.

      The US routinely gives Israel billions in aid. If they’re paying for US weapons, it’s with US money.

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      You’re saying they’re already paid for then? Even more reason to send them to Ukraine

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      What uhhh, what do you think “aid” is? We give them X money and they buy Y American made weapons with it.

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        When was aid like that provided to Israel? I cannot recall that happening. They’re buying weapons with their own money. Doesn’t make it ok to sell weapons to someone committing genocide, but it is not free aid either.

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            That is certainly not true. From the article itself: “which Israel had purchased from Boeing with Israeli funds”. So they do buy with their own money. But far less then I assumed.

            What I missed was that the US provides aid, with the caveat that Israel has to spend it on US weapons. So they are buying from the US, but with US money.