Canada isn’t simply in cooperation WITH imperialism, IT IS an imperialist power, you need to do research on the havoc Canadian mining firms wreck across the world and the support Canada offers to neo-nazis forces globally
It is, my point is that nothing they do happens without the approval of the US and the assistance of its financial and military institutions. It would be one thing if Americans intervened only when their own interests were threatened but they don’t, they intervene when any member of their imperialist bloc’s interests are threatened (at least when it’s not in the US interests to abandon them) because there can be no alternative. Nationalizing Canadian mines is just as threatening to them as nationalizing American ones in this aspect
There is no ideological conditionality or criteria on my part, it simply needs to possess the quality of EXISTING, and that’s independent of any list of ideals I would prefer, my comment you quoted is simply me not taking the idea of imaginary revolutions seriously
Tbh the only reason I’m even engaging in this silly argument is cuz its obviously about more than about a hypothetical “Canadian” national liberation struggle (lmao), but, for me, cuz there is a tendency on this website for people to work themselves up into unhealthy, misanthropic rages about abstract ideas of geopolitical struggle to the point where its honestly uncomfortable :( and it deserves criticism. Idk what this is about to you but why did you make this post if this is about something you don’t even take seriously?
You’re legit reading the worst things possible into what I said. This isn’t about morals at all to me (well maybe a little, I donut like imperial machinations on a moral level too) but I feel like we need to be able to distinguish cracks and contradictions between the imperialist powers if we want to take advantage of them and this is a big one lol
This shit is honestly upsetting me and I can’t think critically about my position or your position anymore tbh, I’m disengaging respond if you want
You’re legit reading the worst things possible into what I said
lmao I got called an “imperial chauvinist” and a “raging misanthrope” in this thread because I think critical support for an imperialist government that gave a standing ovation to an SS officer isn’t a tenable position for socialists to advance, so let’s not get precious or in our feelings all right
OBVIOUSLY we extend solidarity to the working class of Canada no matter what the US and the SS loving Canuck state decides to do, but that is not the same thing as cheerleading whatever bullshit response the Canadian gov cooks up in response to Trump’s expansionist mood, especially when that response will be, as some comments have already predicted; a partial or full surrender
Yeah fuck it I’m getting into feelings cuz this is the only site i ever feel comfortable rarely putting my fucking embarrassing feelings , i can angry debate anywhere else on the internet
I’m sorry, I came into this thread with way too many assumptions
I hate this site for how debatey and hostile it is, it seeps into everything including how I interact with it. I should have engaged in some kind of better way. I’m not even okay with dogpiling libs anymore it just creates a horrible atmosphere and I’m not gonna do it anymore
I hope I didn’t upset you when I said those things, I’m sorry
I’m gonna take a site break, maybe forever cuz this has upset me way way too much and i feel like this may keep happening if i stay here cuz its not the first time
i said I was disengaging before but i saw this and had to reply, im going for real now
i will think about what you said it was never my intent to run defense for settler colonialism and that was maybe what i was doing
Disagreements happen, you had your takes, I had mine, we both should’ve been more charitable, but misunderstandings happen in the heat of the moment and perhaps I was a little too defensive, I’m sorry too
You didn’t upset me and I hope I didn’t ruin your day cause that’s the last thing I want, you got a big heart comrade and that’s no crime, have a good night
It is, my point is that nothing they do happens without the approval of the US and the assistance of its financial and military institutions. It would be one thing if Americans intervened only when their own interests were threatened but they don’t, they intervene when any member of their imperialist bloc’s interests are threatened (at least when it’s not in the US interests to abandon them) because there can be no alternative. Nationalizing Canadian mines is just as threatening to them as nationalizing American ones in this aspect
Tbh the only reason I’m even engaging in this silly argument is cuz its obviously about more than about a hypothetical “Canadian” national liberation struggle (lmao), but, for me, cuz there is a tendency on this website for people to work themselves up into unhealthy, misanthropic rages about abstract ideas of geopolitical struggle to the point where its honestly uncomfortable :( and it deserves criticism. Idk what this is about to you but why did you make this post if this is about something you don’t even take seriously?
You’re legit reading the worst things possible into what I said. This isn’t about morals at all to me (well maybe a little, I donut like imperial machinations on a moral level too) but I feel like we need to be able to distinguish cracks and contradictions between the imperialist powers if we want to take advantage of them and this is a big one lol
This shit is honestly upsetting me and I can’t think critically about my position or your position anymore tbh, I’m disengaging respond if you want
lmao I got called an “imperial chauvinist” and a “raging misanthrope” in this thread because I think critical support for an imperialist government that gave a standing ovation to an SS officer isn’t a tenable position for socialists to advance, so let’s not get precious or in our feelings all right
OBVIOUSLY we extend solidarity to the working class of Canada no matter what the US and the SS loving Canuck state decides to do, but that is not the same thing as cheerleading whatever bullshit response the Canadian gov cooks up in response to Trump’s expansionist mood, especially when that response will be, as some comments have already predicted; a partial or full surrender
i got into feelings but also apology
Yeah fuck it I’m getting into feelings cuz this is the only site i ever feel comfortable rarely putting my fucking embarrassing feelings , i can angry debate anywhere else on the internet
I’m sorry, I came into this thread with way too many assumptions
I hate this site for how debatey and hostile it is, it seeps into everything including how I interact with it. I should have engaged in some kind of better way. I’m not even okay with dogpiling libs anymore it just creates a horrible atmosphere and I’m not gonna do it anymore
I hope I didn’t upset you when I said those things, I’m sorry
I’m gonna take a site break, maybe forever cuz this has upset me way way too much and i feel like this may keep happening if i stay here cuz its not the first time
i said I was disengaging before but i saw this and had to reply, im going for real now
i will think about what you said it was never my intent to run defense for settler colonialism and that was maybe what i was doing
Disagreements happen, you had your takes, I had mine, we both should’ve been more charitable, but misunderstandings happen in the heat of the moment and perhaps I was a little too defensive, I’m sorry too
You didn’t upset me and I hope I didn’t ruin your day cause that’s the last thing I want, you got a big heart comrade and that’s no crime, have a good night