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      ? The UN has thoroughly investigated and concluded that the ‘Uyghur genocide’ is a fabrication https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region I suggest you read it rather than have it filtered through biased western media orgs, and I trust their investigation a lot more than those from countries like the US that have a vested interest in painting China as negatively as possible

      Even if the propaganda were true it would constitute a crime against humanity not a war crime, unless you consider the ETIM terror campaign a ‘war’

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        A fabrication? Did you even read that pdf? I quote:

        Serious human rights violations have been committed in XUAR in the context of the Government’s application of counter-terrorism and counter-“extremism” strategies. The implementation of these strategies, and associated policies in XUAR has led to interlocking patterns of severe and undue restrictions on a wide range of human rights. These patterns of restrictions are characterized by a discriminatory component, as the underlying acts often directly or indirectly affect Uyghur and other predominantly Muslim communities.

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                Here you have comment, from this thread, of someone saying there’s basically no problems: https://lemmy.ml/comment/16144139

                Denial of racism and abuse by the Chinese state is rampant here on Lemmy, don’t pretend otherwise.

                Oh and please don’t assume my narrative. I hate the US more.

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                  You believe that china is engaging in a genocide first hand?(as opposed to simply supplying the perpetrators like the US )

                  And still hate the US more? do you live near a strong magnetic source? cause your moral compass is out of whack

                  Seriously though if you don’t have a inherent bias against China, then why do you think their engaging in a genocide of Uyghurs with no evidence?

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            I was agreeing with them, I posted the conclusion to show people they’ve not commited war crimes, just “serious human rights violations”. Sorry if my intentions didn’t come through in my comment.

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          That has no mention of a war that has China as a belligerent, can you specify which war you think these crimes are occurring as part of? and specify them?

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            I’m agreeing with you, the CCP hasn’t commited any war crimes, just “serious human rights violations”

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              Ok, but there is a difference between the two, and no one here said China hasn’t committed serious human rights violations, they have and I condemn it like I condemn all serious human right violations including those committed by the US and it’s allies, domestically and in the numerous recent and ongoing invasions, wars and conflicts they’ve started, in addition to their war crimes

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEhITvJuyE

      You can watch this and look for any evidence of your claim. You wont see any. Or you can take my word for it when i tell you i literally spoke to a uyghur from Xinjiang on XHS the other day and they were chillin enjoying life.

      Either way maybe dont just take the word of whatever Western Media mouthpieces tell you?

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        C’mon bro we can’t seriously be debating if the Uyghur genocide is real. Obviously China isn’t all evil but this is a well documented genocide.

        And bro why you pulling the “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” card. Shut yo bitch ass up

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            Read the UN Report your fellow shill tried to cite.

            You’re never gonna get the communist utopia you want, China is not your friend, stop acting like such a clown, get off the internet, loser, and touch grass

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          well documented genocide.

          source?

          the UN, it addition to numerous countries including those with a Muslim majority population have investigated and concluded that the claims of genocide are a fabrication

          The claims of genocide that appear in western media can be traced back to single source; Adrian Zenz a german christian fundamentalist who is on a self described ‘holy war to destroy China’ and writes books such has ‘Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation,’

          Do you really believe this nutjob is a more reliable source on events in Xinjiang than the UN’s Office of Human Rights?

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            Bro did you even read the wiki article you linked, idiot. It talks about how numerous agencies/new outlets confirmed his research that there exists an ongoing genocide, detention, and sterilization programs of Uyghurs. The article goes into detail on how Zenz is the target of multiple misinformation campaigns to cover up his research. However, it also notes that you are in part right because he is exaggerating the numbers. (At least your dense, mush brained ass got one part slightly right)

            From the UN’s Report on Xinjiang, 2022

            Serious human rights violations have been committed in XUAR… the underlying acts often directly or indirectly affect Uyghur and other predominantly Muslim communities

            The report goes onto state how Uyghur’s are placed in detention camps with terrible conditions where forced surgeries, sexual violence, and torture have been reported. (VIII, 145)

            Multiple times the report states Uyghur’s are being stripped of their liberties in the region.

            Why are you citing a source that doesn’t even reflect your claim 🤡 Learn to read, better luck next time

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              Please read the entire article and don’t just cheery pick the things that fit your pre-conceived notions

              Stop moving the goalposts, my claim is that their is no genocide, the only source you quote alleges serious human rights violations, that while obviously terrible(and I condemn them, just as I condemn the US’s similar but greater and larger in scale abuses committed at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, CIA blacksites etc), are not synonymous with genocide

              Which sources on that page present evidence of genocide? if any such source exists why didn’t you quote them?