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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don’t care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal “Chinese spy,” while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

“This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,” Quintin said. “People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks.”

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    15 hours ago

    Loops by Pixelfed

    IMO it is DOA because the whole point of TikTok is the feed algorithm. You’re not supposed to pick what to watch, the algorithm knows your interests. The idea of TikTok therefore is fundamentally unethical and any libre alternatives will be hindered by the fact that users want the unethical part which no developer should or wants to implement.

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      I don’t see why the concept should be unethical.

      In practice, of course it is insanely unethical as the algorithms are designed to maximize view time which leads to algorithmic radicalization and hate spreading more quickly, but the concept of an algorithm knowing and learning what you like and selecting for you itself isn’t unethical.

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        concept of an algorithm knowing and learning what you like and selecting for you itself isn’t unethical.

        Unless you host it yourself, you have practically given away your soul to an instance operator

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        It’s expensive for video though.

        In other words, I have a hard time seeing Pixelfed with a high quality “benign” TikTok algorithm. It’s already possible for music, but video data\analysis is just so voluminous that, without the profitable exploitation backing it, I don’t see how they’d pay for it.

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        I don’t see why the concept should be unethical

        It’s like engineering drugs specifically targeting reward systems of the brain associated with human emotional development and socialization.

        Edit: more explicit

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            Besides the fact that it’s quite difficult to do this non-invasively, giving anyone instant access to any amount of exactly what they want most is dangerous (Edit: likely irresponsible, potentially dangerous, like designing escapist drugs, fine line between helping and hurting, and you must consider both).

            Definitely find lack of care on the part of fellow computer scientists irresponsible. I’ve rejected grant followups for thinly veiled weapons research for the same reason; i.e., potential misuse.