Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.
They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.
Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.
They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.
Mexico had their first black president in 1829 and abolished slavery. The US was a century too late to lead such a thing. Your comment reeks of western chauvinism.
And who said anything about the first black president or abolishing slavery? Mexico didn’t give women the right to vote until 50 years after we did here in Australia, does that mean you reek as well? What an odd stand to try and make.
This timeline? Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?
And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.
Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.
Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has
Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?
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And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.
Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough). Like, “haha, Canada will turn the USA blue!”
And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.
But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual
I didn’t imply that. Stating that there is too much hatred of minorities doesn’t mean that America fails at everything. That is a stretch. Me pointing out that America has a lot of hatred towards minorities isn’t a reflection of everything America does as a whole is inherently bad.
I didn’t say that America can’t have a good influence on another country. America isn’t one to look to especially now for how minorities are treated.
I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place. I am not wrong.
But you are wrong. The US doesn’t hate its minorities in general. The US hates the poor in specific.
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The same goes if you replace “billionaire” with “poor”. If you are rich, you are welcome. That’s your only qualifier. If you are poor, you are trash. That is your only qualifier.
When I say America I mean the people of America. There are large numbers of folks, regardless of why they do, hate minorities.
I didn’t say the wealthy “elite” weren’t the cause of a lot of the divide. They absolutely are. No such thing as an ethical billionaire.
I’m not disagreeing with you on the fact that your financial status isn’t what really separates us. What I am saying is there is still too much hate towards minorities. That doesn’t change that the wealthy are a problem.
You’re taking two separate ideas and merging them into one “truth.”
They ate two separate topics. Just because the wealthy are guilty of the bad they are doing doesn’t take away the fact that there is too much hate towards minorities in America from the people that live here.
I don’t think that’s entirely true and Thiel will learn that lesson sooner or later. Arguably already has as he was rumored to have been pissed about all the anti-trans rhetoric and throttled spending, which is why Elon had to step up and shell out.
Now Musk is in the driver seat with a grudge he hasn’t paid back from PayPal and Thiel’s in danger of finding out after fucking around.
You singled it out. Which was incorrect. Hatred of minorities is common in every culture on every continent of the Earth. It’s a basic human nature thing. And America isn’t special in that respect. Hell when you get into large monocultures like China Etc the racism and hatred of minorities gets even more extreme and specific. In fact a lot of those hatreds have been imported from all over. The Koreans hatred of the japanese. The Japanese is hatred of the Chinese and vice versa. Various Indian sects hatred of each other. And the colorful bigotry of Europe and the Mediterranean. But one thing it is also produced here in America that is a little less common than elsewhere. Are people that actually are much more tolerant and supportive of minorities. Unfortunately they’re not the ones in control but they do exist.
Singling out a problem that exists in a country I am very familiar with is a non problem. I didn’t state it was special to America. I didn’t speak on any other nation and their hatred of minorities. I didn’t even state anything about it being part of “human nature.”
I spoke on being familiar with the fact that it is a problem in America.
Not from America. America is full of hatred towards minorities.
Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.
They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.
Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.
They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.
Mexico had their first black president in 1829 and abolished slavery. The US was a century too late to lead such a thing. Your comment reeks of western chauvinism.
. . . You don’t think Mexico is western?
And who said anything about the first black president or abolishing slavery? Mexico didn’t give women the right to vote until 50 years after we did here in Australia, does that mean you reek as well? What an odd stand to try and make.
This timeline?
Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?
And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.
Also isn’t it Americans who are pushing the most for anti-LGBT legislation in African countries?
Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.
Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has
Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?
This timeline:
And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.
Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough). Like, “haha, Canada will turn the USA blue!”
And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.
But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual
I didn’t say there were no positives from America did I? I didn’t rank where America stands in how progressive or conservative America is.
I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place.
I am not wrong. There is too much of it.
So “come off” what exactly?
Decep is right.
You’re basically implying the bad outweighs the good to the point that it won’t give them any ideas.
The bad may be very amplified now, but I think the TikTok crowd in particular and US history skews towards “majority good”
I didn’t imply that. Stating that there is too much hatred of minorities doesn’t mean that America fails at everything. That is a stretch. Me pointing out that America has a lot of hatred towards minorities isn’t a reflection of everything America does as a whole is inherently bad.
I didn’t say that America can’t have a good influence on another country. America isn’t one to look to especially now for how minorities are treated.
But you are wrong. The US doesn’t hate its minorities in general. The US hates the poor in specific.
GaybillionaireBlackbillionaireHispanicbillionaireMuslimbillionaireFemalebillionaireThe same goes if you replace “billionaire” with “poor”. If you are rich, you are welcome. That’s your only qualifier. If you are poor, you are trash. That is your only qualifier.
When I say America I mean the people of America. There are large numbers of folks, regardless of why they do, hate minorities.
I didn’t say the wealthy “elite” weren’t the cause of a lot of the divide. They absolutely are. No such thing as an ethical billionaire.
I’m not disagreeing with you on the fact that your financial status isn’t what really separates us. What I am saying is there is still too much hate towards minorities. That doesn’t change that the wealthy are a problem.
You’re taking two separate ideas and merging them into one “truth.”
They ate two separate topics. Just because the wealthy are guilty of the bad they are doing doesn’t take away the fact that there is too much hate towards minorities in America from the people that live here.
I don’t think that’s entirely true and Thiel will learn that lesson sooner or later. Arguably already has as he was rumored to have been pissed about all the anti-trans rhetoric and throttled spending, which is why Elon had to step up and shell out.
Now Musk is in the driver seat with a grudge he hasn’t paid back from PayPal and Thiel’s in danger of finding out after fucking around.
Not significantly more than anywhere else.
I didn’t compare to any place. I just stated America is filled with hatred towards minorities.
You singled it out. Which was incorrect. Hatred of minorities is common in every culture on every continent of the Earth. It’s a basic human nature thing. And America isn’t special in that respect. Hell when you get into large monocultures like China Etc the racism and hatred of minorities gets even more extreme and specific. In fact a lot of those hatreds have been imported from all over. The Koreans hatred of the japanese. The Japanese is hatred of the Chinese and vice versa. Various Indian sects hatred of each other. And the colorful bigotry of Europe and the Mediterranean. But one thing it is also produced here in America that is a little less common than elsewhere. Are people that actually are much more tolerant and supportive of minorities. Unfortunately they’re not the ones in control but they do exist.
Singling out a problem that exists in a country I am very familiar with is a non problem. I didn’t state it was special to America. I didn’t speak on any other nation and their hatred of minorities. I didn’t even state anything about it being part of “human nature.”
I spoke on being familiar with the fact that it is a problem in America.