When I give suno a prompt for “electrojazz metal microtonal polyrhythmic” I get a fusion remix that sounds good, but sometimes it sounds just like a plagiarized remix of something someone created before.
But search in Spotify will not give me good results if I search for that. It’s just the search that needs to become better for discovery, because the song type already existed to train suno, it is not truly creative.
Which is funny, because it should be faster, easier and cheaper to create a good search and discovery engine instead of training and implementing brute-force AI. Especially because there is so much music that there has to be some sample left when you search, but it needs to be less rigid…
tldr: I want spotify to be better at finding songs from a prompt than suno is at making a new song plagiarized from unmentioned influences.
Its been a long time since ive used it but last.fm might be better for discovering obscure genre types than spotify. Spotify wants to generalize and distill their recommendations as much as possible because they want to appeal to a broad audience but iirc last.fm uses user tags to classify the music so its more likely something is tagged with the obscure search terms you’re looking for.
The sad thing is that machine learning methods are actually pretty good at classifying data. So Spotify could implement an “AI” enhanced search that works with your search terms if they wanted. Unfortunately, they no longer seem interested in improving their product.
When I give suno a prompt for “electrojazz metal microtonal polyrhythmic” I get a fusion remix that sounds good, but sometimes it sounds just like a plagiarized remix of something someone created before.
But search in Spotify will not give me good results if I search for that. It’s just the search that needs to become better for discovery, because the song type already existed to train suno, it is not truly creative.
Which is funny, because it should be faster, easier and cheaper to create a good search and discovery engine instead of training and implementing brute-force AI. Especially because there is so much music that there has to be some sample left when you search, but it needs to be less rigid…
tldr: I want spotify to be better at finding songs from a prompt than suno is at making a new song plagiarized from unmentioned influences.
Its been a long time since ive used it but last.fm might be better for discovering obscure genre types than spotify. Spotify wants to generalize and distill their recommendations as much as possible because they want to appeal to a broad audience but iirc last.fm uses user tags to classify the music so its more likely something is tagged with the obscure search terms you’re looking for.
The sad thing is that machine learning methods are actually pretty good at classifying data. So Spotify could implement an “AI” enhanced search that works with your search terms if they wanted. Unfortunately, they no longer seem interested in improving their product.